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Many of you are too young to remember

Postby engrssc » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:25 pm

before Hauptwerk, that it wasn't possible to play a beautiful, reasonably priced pipe organ - in your own home.

Then there was Aunt Suzzie's pump organ in her "parlor"?

Hammond organs in places other than funeral homes and

Not having fast food.
All the food was slow.
Where did we eat?

It was a place called, “Home.
Mom cooked every day and when Dad got home from work, we sat down together at the dining room table, and if I didn't like what she put on my plate I was allowed to sit there until I did like it.”
And how we had to ask for permission to leave the table.

Some parents NEVER owned their own house, never wore Levis, never set foot on a golf course, never traveled out of the country or had a credit card.
In their later years they had something called a revolving charge card. The card was good only at Sears & Roebuck.

Our parents never drove us to soccer practice. This was mostly because we never had heard of soccer.

Having a bicycle that weighed probably 50 pounds, and only had one speed, (slow)

We didn't have a television in our house until I was 11 and it was a "second hand" 11 inch "floor" model.
Of course, black and white, and the station went off the air at midnight, after playing the national anthem and a poem about God; it came back on the air at about 6 a.m. And there was usually a locally produced news and farm show on, featuring local people.

I was 19 before I tasted my first pizza, it was called “pizza pie.” When I bit into it, I burned the roof of my mouth and the cheese slid off, swung down, plastered itself against my chin and burned that, too. It's still the best pizza I ever had.
Pizzas were not delivered to our home. But milk was.

I never had a telephone in my room. The only phone in the house was in the living room and it was on a party line. Before you could dial, you had to listen and make sure some people you didn't know weren't already using the line.

All newspapers were delivered by boys and all boys delivered newspapers. My brother had a
"paper route" and delivered a newspaper, six days a week. It cost 7 cents a paper, of which he got to keep 2 cents. He had to get up at 6 AM every morning.

On Saturday, he had to collect the 42 cents from his customers. His favorite customers were the ones who gave him 50 cents and told him to keep the change. His least favorite customers were the ones who seemed to never be home on collection day.

Movie stars kissed with their mouths shut. At least, they did in the movies. There were no movie ratings because all movies were responsibly produced for everyone to enjoy viewing, without profanity or violence or most anything offensive.

If you grew up in a generation before there was fast food, you may want to share some of these memories with your children or grandchildren.

Growing up isn't what it used to be, is it?

MEMORIES from a friend:

When Dad was cleaning out my grandmother's house and he brought me an old Royal Crown Cola bottle. In the bottle top was a stopper with a bunch of holes in it. I knew immediately what it was, but my kids had no idea. They thought they had tried to make it a salt shaker or something. I knew it as the bottle that sat on the end of the ironing board to “sprinkle” clothes with because we didn't have steam irons. Man, I am old.

How about helping mom hang the newly washed clothes on the line outside using "clothes pins" even in the
winter. The "wash" froze of course. but when it had dried, it became soft and fluffy. How good those fresh sheets and pillow smelled.

How many of these do you remember?

Head light dimmer switches on the floor.

Ignition switches on the dashboard.

Heaters mounted on the inside of the fire wall.

Real ice boxes.

Pant leg clips for bicycles without chain guards.

Soldering irons you heat on a gas burner.

Using hand signals for cars without turn signals.

Older Than Dirt Quiz:

Count all the ones that you remember not the ones you were told about. Ratings at the bottom.

1. Blackjack chewing gum.
2. Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water.
3. Candy cigarettes.
4. Soda pop machines that dispensed glass bottles.
5. Coffee shops or diners with table side juke box music selectors
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers.
7. Party lines on the telephone.
8 Newsreels before the movie.
9. P.F. Flyers.
10. Butch wax.
11..TV test patterns that came on at night after the last show and were there until TV shows started again in
the morning. (there were only 3 channels...(if you were fortunate).
12. Sometimes a sign would come on saying 'We are having technical difficulties. Please stand by.'
13. Pea shooters.
14. Howdy Doody.
15. 78 and 45 RPM records.
16. S&H green stamps.
17. Hi-fi's.
18. Metal ice trays with a lever to eject the cubes.
19. Mimeograph paper.
20. Blue flashbulbs.
21. Packards.
22. Roller skate keys.
23. Cork popguns.
24. Drive-ins.
25. Studebakers.
26. Wash tub wringers.
27. Cars with cranks in front down low to start the engine.

If you remembered 0-5 = You're still young.
If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older.
If you remembered 11-15 = Don't tell your age,
If you remembered 16-25 = You' re older than dirt!

I might be older than dirt but those memories are some of the best parts of my life.

Don't forget to pass this along!!
Especially to all your really good Hauptwerk friends.

Rgds,
Ed
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby murph » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:11 pm

Ah here now Mrs. Shouldn't no. 14 be 78rpm?
Otherwise you're not OLD!!!!!
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby engrssc » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:34 pm

murph wrote:Shouldn't no. 14 be 78rpm?


And a bit before that, the cylinder (recordings) with the "Morning Glory Horn" and the faithful dog sitting next to it with the slogan "His Master's Voice".

How about the two-handled popsicle for a nickel? Dixie cups?

Gas for 25 cents and the gas station attendant pumping the gas and cleaning \the windshield?

Games were shooting marbles, playing tag, jumping rope, and jacks

Cracker Jack with a prize in every package, trading cards and trading comic books

Remember the big, fancy department stores like Marshall Fields (now Macy's) having elevator operators announcing the merchandise available on each floor.

Fred Waring and his Pennsylvanians.

A little latter, Richard Dorf introducing his kit Schober electronic organs using at first vacuum tube oscillators. I built all the models except the smallest spinet organ..

Crystal sets and then Heath kits?

Can't forget Hauptwerk Version 1.0 from Crumhorn Labs

Rgds,
Ed
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby telemanr » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:43 pm

I built an H11 computer and built the punch tape unit (BASIC was on punch tape) and added the double floppy disk drive. Even bought a Decwriter and sped it up from 15 cps to 120 with a circuit board built in Canada. Those were the days.
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Some of you are too young to remember

Postby engrssc » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:51 pm

I've mentioned previously my Apple IIe with the green screen monitor and the OS on floppies that needed to be loaded each time. Which still "works". Many other 'putters I bought since have long bit the dust.

First "big" job, we used punch cards for memory. Many key punch operators as I recall. Probably that's where Allen got the idea for their earlier organs.

All this look back to recall progress and how far we've come in the space of just a life time. :D 8)

Now what's for the future - dessert? :wink:

Rgds,
Ed
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby GLMounk » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:44 pm

The milk man and bread man had carriages pulled by horses.
We also had an egg man but he drove a truck.
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby murph » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:50 pm

I remember the Apple IIc. which has the os in rom, but CP/M or Basic or DOS were on disc....
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby deebos » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:03 am

Dumont television network and..Tom Corbett Space Cadet
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby organassist » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:28 am

My first programming job was as an Assembler programmer on an IBM 370 mainframe computer with only 256KB of memory.

I wrote code using a pencil and a coding sheet which I had to submit to the Punch Room to be keyed onto cards. After receiving the cards I checked them and submitted them to the Computer Room. After 24 to 48 hours they came back with a thick pile of paper that sometimes would reveal that I had missed out a single comma!

By comparison, today’s technology is akin to magic.
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby engrssc » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:09 am

Remembering how noisy the Punch Room was. :roll:

Speaking of Dumont, they built a TV set with only 7 tubes, one of which was the CRT. Multitasking in those days meant a tube circuit carrying RF, IF and audio simultaneously.

And then the names Unix and UNIVAC come to mind with the original AT&T Unix, development starting in the 1970s at the Bell Labs research center.

UNIVAC being an acronym for UNIVersal Automatic Computer.

Computer "legends" we benefit from today. (I guess I don't consider the '70s all that long ago.)

But back to Hauptwerk, I often wondered which computer Martin first used to begin developing Hauptwerk.

Rgds,
Ed

PS, Saw a T (shirt) today that read "I know everything. I have Google". 8) We've come a long way baby. :)
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby mdyde » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:26 am

Hello Ed,

Did you actually write your original post entirely yourself, or was it largely copied/pasted from a social media/email circular? Could I gently request that you avoid doing the latter here -- I'm sure we've all been exposed to more than enough of those! Also, could I gently request that you try to keep posts at least broadly about pipe organs and matters genuinely related to them (even in this 'General discussion' part of the forum)? We prefer to keep things broadly relevant, since that's what people come to this forum for, and we'd prefer it wasn't diluted it too much with unrelated things. There's a whole world of social media out there for everything else!

Many thanks.
Best regards,
Martin.

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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby mdyde » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:04 am

engrssc wrote:But back to Hauptwerk, I often wondered which computer Martin first used to begin developing Hauptwerk.


I can't remember exactly, but when developing v1 I think it would probably have been a Pentium III or 4 PC with Windows 98. For initial v2 development it was probably a Pentium 4 with XP and 768 MB of RAM.
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby engrssc » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:06 am

The background started as conversations with my grand daughters and later with my 2 great grand sons - average "new" generation kids. Found they were very "up" on all the latest video games, music trends, Smart Phones etc. In many instances they knew more about these (the latest) than I did. And I don't live in a third world mentality. But they knew zero about how these (today) items came into being or anything about happenings that led up to "our time" even looking back 20 or 30 years ago. I asked what they learn in history classes and their furthest back recall was maybe events much closer to the present. One grand daughter was very interested in what I did when I was her (present) age. The other, not so much. The "interested" grand daughter's goal is to be a scientist, not yet sure in which area yet, but she is exploring. I have always been inclined to the thinking of how important background is because you can see patterns in thinking and development. So reminiscing was part of that conversation. And need is very much the "inventor" of progress. And this, for sure, is true with the continued development of Hauptwerk software. Thanks once again, Martin, for all your efforts in that direction. :) 8)

Rgds,
Ed

PS, I'm not into social media. Call me old school. :roll:
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby mdyde » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:31 am

Thanks, Ed.

(I avoid social media too.)
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Re: Many of you are too young to remember

Postby engrssc » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:06 pm

I just had a conversation earlier re a prospective H/W organ I've been asked to build. The very overused word "awesome" was used by several in this committee. Think that describes what others see here
as available - right now. We'll have to see what they will do.

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