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Hinsz-Schnitger/Cavaillé-Coll/Arp Schnitger

Postby B. Milan » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:52 pm

Hello everyone!

With all the forth coming HW2 sets I thought I would add a few to the list. We are pleased to have the first recorded Arp Schnitger virtual organ set for Hauptwerk 2. The fine and nearly all original organ of 1680 located in Cappel, Germany at the St. Peter and Paul church. The organ contains 30 stops over 2 manuals and pedal. All in all it is quite a versatile instrument with a wide variety of tonal resources. There is no mistaking the north German Baroque sound on this instrument.

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Here is the stop list:

Hauptwerk: manual II, (CDE - c3), chest and keyboard by Schnitger

1. Principal 8' Schnitger, C-F# in facade of tin, rest on chest
(flat pipes are non-speaking)
2. Quintadena 16' pre-Schnitger, C-A and g#-c3 Schnitger
3. Holfloete 8' pre-Schnitger, C-b soldered Gedackt,
from c1 with chimneys
4. Octave 4' pre-Schnitger
5. Spitzfloete 4' Schnitger
6. Rauschpfeife II Schnitger
7. Nasat 2 2/3' pre-Schnitger, cylindrical, open
8. Gemshorn 2' pre-Schnitger, cylindrical, open
9. Mixtur V-VI Schnitger
10. Cimbel III Schnitger
11. Trompete 8' resonators and shallots pre-Schnitger,
the rest Schnitger

Rueckpositiv: Manual I (CDE - c3), chest, action, and keyboard by Schnitger

1. Principal 4' Schnitger, C-g# in facade, of tin, rest on chest
(flat pipes are non-speaking)
2. Gedackt 8' pre-Schnitger, hammered lead, soldered
3. Quintadena 8' Schnitger
4. Sesquialtera II Schnitger
5. Rohrfloete 4' Schnitger
6. Octave 4' Schnitger
7. Tertian II Schnitger
8. Siffloete 1 1/3' Schnitger
9. Scharf IV-VI Schnitger
10. Dulcian 16' Schnitger

Pedal (CD - d1), chest and action Schnitger, pedalboard by von Beckerath
(copy of Schnitger's at Steinkirchen).

1. Untersatz 16' pre-Schnitger, lead, soldered
2. Octave 8' pre-Schnitger
3. Octave 4' Schnitger
4. Nachthorn 2' Schnitger, open, cylindrical
5. Rauschpfeife II Schnitger
6. Mixtur IV-VI Schnitger
7. Posaune 16' Schnitger
8. Trompete 8' Schnitger
9 Cornet 2' partly Schnitger, partly von Beckerath

Cimbelstern

Originally the organ was situated in St. Johannis church in Hamburg and then placed into storage for many years. The church in Cappel decided to purchase the organ in 1816 to replace their old one. Many of the decorative statues found on the top of the organ had to be removed to fit the organ case in the space provided. The removed statues are now located above the altar at the front of the church!

Recorded back in 2003 this is technically the first Schnitger organ sampled! ;) For several reasons the project has been put off here and there and now has finally had the chance to come out and play!

We'll be working on getting it released in the very near future, most likely before Christmas. Here are some short demo clips which were recorded over a year ago in an early version of Hauptwerk 2. Note that the acoustics are quite short as the church is not a very large one. This means many things and number 1 means you do not need a workhorse PC to run the set. Number 2, the releases are quite fine with only one release recorded (again it was done back in '03 before anything was known about multiple releases). You will especially hear this in the G Major Fantasia clip with the fast running scales. Thus the entire organ will load easily wth the proper options in HW2 in under 2GB, perhaps under 1.5GB.

www.milanaudio.com/cappel-schnitger/G-M ... a-Clip.mp3 (short clip MIDI unknown)

www.milanaudio.com/cappel-schnitger/bac ... nata-6.mp3 (MIDI unknown)

www.milanaudio.com/cappel-schnitger/mein-junges.mp3 (MIDI James Pressler)

www.milanaudio.com/cappel-schnitger/zipoli.mp3 (MIDI unknown)

Again, these were recorded a long time ago without any wind system settings. Of course once completed the organ will have a much more real sound.

Moving on!

Next up is the Hinsz/F.C. Schnitger organ of the Bovenkerk in Kampen, Netherlands.

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This organ will be due out in '07. For further reading please visit:

http://www.debovenkerk.nl/page_31.htm

With church acoustics up to 7 or 8 seconds this will be a project! The organ is quite glorious and has the warm beautiful sound associated with the early Dutch organ builders. More information later...

And last but certainly not least! The third project will be recordings from the Notre Dame de Metz in Metz, France of the Mutin-Cavaillé-Coll organ with 38 stops.

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Another wonderful instrument sounding nearly as it did when it was re-built in 1903 by Charles Mutin and Cavaillé-Coll. Again, this will be due out in '07.

More information will be offered later for all instruments!
Last edited by B. Milan on Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby hschoof » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:16 pm

Hello Brett
Wow that is quite a coup. All those wonderful organs!
The Bovenkerk happens to be one of my favourites. It is absolutely brilliant and the acoustics there are unbelievable.

I think I'll have to break into my piggy bank and get them all.
Keep up the great work.

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Postby hschoof » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:32 pm

Hello again Brett
I just listened to the Schnitger recordings. What a beautiful sound. Excellent recordings too. As you said the reverb is just perfect and you really do not miss the multiple release samples.
I also looked up the Metz organ on the internet - very nice. It looks like you picked a few really good ones. All the Hauptwerkians will be impressed I'm sure.

Definitely another few for my collection.

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Postby Marco » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:05 pm

wow, what a coup!

This is the same organ that Helmut Walcha recorded his first cycle of Bach organ works on! If you have the CDs the first track is actually Walcha improvising on this very same Cappel organ with different registrations which are spoken out aloud as they are set.
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Postby Marco » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:21 am

also, this is a page with more information on this organ

http://www.arpschnitger.nl/scappel.html

wow, I still can't believe you were able to sample this instrument, it will definitely be a nice Christmas present!

BTW, do you know what the restoration of 1978 entailed? Also, any chance you'll also be able to sample the Laurenskerk organ in Alkmaar? :)
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Postby Louis Joosten » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:39 am

I found a very nice site with lots of information on the Metz Notre Dame organ:

http://orguendmetz.free.fr

It's in French, but there is a very detailed stoplists, mp3 files, even videos.

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Postby gecko » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:22 am

Marco wrote:
also, this is a page with more information on this organ

http://www.arpschnitger.nl/scappel.html


That is an excellent page, but it seems to have been optically scanned with all the oddities, such as unwanted birds, that OCR software produces, such as:

it is only by Ibis means that the nearly complete performance of Bach's organ works becomes possible

(for "this").
I still have a very small website
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Postby Jim Reid » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:15 pm

Hooray for the coming Bovenwerk organ in Kampen!

I was there in the Summer of 1981; not only got to see the
organ, but actually got to play upon it as well!! The following
photo has my bearded face peering down toward my wife,
who took the photo, from up at the organ. My face is just
visible to the right of, and between the two right side
statues. You can just see my face IF you look carefully.

Was a fascinating experience. The resident organist also played
a rousing rendition of the Star Spangled Banner, just to please
the vistiors from the USA! See:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q203 ... Kampen.jpg

Looking forward to the coming sample set and ODF!
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Postby B. Milan » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:34 pm

BTW, do you know what the restoration of 1978 entailed? Also, any chance you'll also be able to sample the Laurenskerk organ in Alkmaar? :)


As far as I know it mainly had to deal with repairs of the wind chests and bellows due to the new heating system being installed in the Cappel church.

I think these few new projects will be enough for a long while for us!
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Postby B. Milan » Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:58 pm

Hello again Brett
I just listened to the Schnitger recordings. What a beautiful sound. Excellent recordings too. As you said the reverb is just perfect and you really do not miss the multiple release samples.
I also looked up the Metz organ on the internet - very nice. It looks like you picked a few really good ones. All the Hauptwerkians will be impressed I'm sure.

Definitely another few for my collection.


Hello Hans,

Thank you for the comments, I appreciate them. I'm glad you like the sound of the Cappel Schnitger, it is truly a unique organ and considered among the best of Arp's works! It was actually quite difficult having to sample the organ since one just wants to sit and play music on it all day long! Reverb time is about 1.5 to 2 seconds, so very short which is great for "lesser" computers to be able to run the entire instrument at once.
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Bovenkerk Kampen

Postby adri » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:09 pm

Kampen: Are you recording the entire organ, including the later additions?

Dutch organs I would love see sampled:

Leeuwarden, Chr. Muller organ-extremely nice! Great room!
Groningen-Martini, Schnitger and older; fantastic! Incld. 32" stop
Helmond, French baroque in glorious acoustics.
Zeerijp, meantone organ with really nice sound II/P
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Postby Aristide » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:38 am

Slurp... a new Cavaillé-Coll (ehm, Mutin..)... can't wait to add it to my organs..
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Postby Uwe Mahnken » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:58 pm

Hello Brett,

will it be possible to use the samples from the Schnitger with Oberwerk?

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Postby B. Milan » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:31 pm

Hello Brett,

will it be possible to use the samples from the Schnitger with Oberwerk?

Uwe


Hello Uwe,

All of our HW2 sets may be used with Oberwerk 2 and that is the reason that the .hbw feature was implemented in Oberwerk 2. Personally I wouldn't want to combine the samples with other instruments and would want to keep it as it was meant to be on its own. However, that is your choice and the beauty of Hauptwerk 2 which gives you the option.
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Postby B. Milan » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:33 am

Kampen: Are you recording the entire organ, including the later additions?


Hello Adri,

The answer is yes, the complete organ as it is now will be available for Hauptwerk 2. 55 ranks over 4 manuals last time I counted!
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