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new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:26 am
by fermata
Hello!
I am considering the new 12.9" iPad as a touch display for Hauptwerk on a Mac. As I've never used a touch device before, there are things I don't understand about this unit. For example, it's base model has a "capacity" of 64GB. Is this the same as storage on a computer? Memory? I know that for some reason Hauptwerk itself must be run from a proper computer, but what about storing the sample sets on an iPad?

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:42 pm
by telemanr
You can only store the sample sets on whatever computer is running HW.
In my opinion you’d be much better off, and it would be cheaper, to use a normal touch screen monitor with whatever computer you use to run HW.
An iPad is really meant for things like your email, contacts, notes, pictures, reading books, maps, etc. And there are thousands of “apps” (little programs) that do marvellous things like show you the current cheapest gas stations, and, and, and.
That’s what the 64GB on the iPad is for...those “apps” and books and pictures etc.

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:16 pm
by ldeutsch
Fermata,

I agree with Telemanr in general. There are better and less expensive ways to get a good Mac touch screen. However, if you already have the iPad, it is a simple matter to use it with HW.

You will have to run the organs themselves on a real computer. Assuming your computer is a Mac, you can then run Duet on both the Mac and the iPad. Duet is an app that connects the two of these together in the way that you want. Your iPad becomes a second Mac display, complete with touch capability.

Duet requires that the Mac and iPad be connected with a cable - but this is good because it reduces the latency to an acceptable level.

I use an iPad in all of my voicing work with HW. I used a dedicated consoles with lots of stops - but I use the iPad to access HW's voicing screens. I cannot reach my computer, but the iPad sits nicely on the music rack. It works like a charm.

Les

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:38 pm
by fermata
Thanks for your input, telemanr. I don't plan to use the iPad much while playing, but instead rely on finger pistons. I've done a lot of touchscreen research already, and since I'm using a Mac, it isn't that easy -- if it isn't one problem, then it's another. That's why I'm thinking of the iPad -- at least it is definitely Mac-compatible! Plus, it will keep my organ system nice and compact, sitting on the music rest behind my sheet music. I just want to be sure it will work with Hauptwerk as a touchscreen, for occasional use. I will probably use a new MacMini for the computer.

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:50 pm
by fermata
Thank you, Les! I'm so glad to know it works well, and that someone is actually using it! And thanks for the tip about Duet. I was never thrilled with the idea of those big touchscreens, although they can look nice, I suppose. The iPad is the solution I like -- small and unobtrusive, but functional.

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:02 pm
by IainStinson
BTW, Duet now supports Windows systems as well a MACs. At present (in the UK at least) the app for the ipad is being offered at a reduced price (uk£10). [It seems to work nicely on Windows 10.]]

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:58 pm
by fermata
One last question here, as I am about to order....
Will the base model of the new iPad Pro be okay, with 64 GB "capacity" (whatever that is)?

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:01 pm
by fermata
One last question here, as I am about to order....

Will the base model of the new iPad Pro (with 64GB capacity) be okay to use as a touch display?

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:04 pm
by larason2
64 GB should be fine, as you’re not using that memory for anything Hauptwerk related. The iPad is in essence a monitor. I would also consider Luna Display, which is a bit more expensive than Duet, but let’s you use the iPad wirelessly.

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:09 pm
by JRP
I can also recommend Luna display - it uses a USB plug on the computer and then links the iPad wirelessly - I have found there to be little or no noticeable latency. I have using the USB C plug with a MacBook Pro.

Re: new iPad Pro 12.9" as touch display

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:14 pm
by fermata
Thank you, both! Yes, I will look into the Luna display -- wireless sounds great!

JRP -- is your MacBook Pro also your personal computer, or do you dedicate it solely to Hauptwerk? How much memory to you have on it?