Floating palette with preset output db

[micdev]

I know that on a real organ there is no way to control the volume of the output (except for expressive divisions), but no way for the global output of the organ.

Unforntunatly, in my house, I must limit the output of the organ when playing a tutti, and increase it when playing something soft (so I can hear it!).

It would be interesting to have a floating palette (so you can place it anywhere on the screen) with a few buttons to select presetted output levels. You could in the "Organ General setting" set a value for each button (ex: P=-10, MF=-15 F=-20 -FF=-30 FFF=-38)

By pressing the button, the master level would change (without resetting the stops selected!) .

[B. Milan]

Hello François,

We do already have a floating menu bar option added to the enhancements list but the option to have presets with built in amplitude settings hasn't been brought up as far as I know. We'll add it to the enhancements list and see what can be done for a future release.

BTW, for those wondering about the above screenshot "floating bar", I believe François simply created that in a photo editing program since it is not currently part of Hauptwerk.

[micdev]

Oups... sorry Brett, I forgot I had a NDA (non disclosure agreement) and shouldn't have shown Hauptwerk 4.0! Really sorry :-)

No, you're right, some screens capture (Litomysl from Hw website, notepad for the floating window and Miditzer for the piston), a little photosphop and Voilà!

Don't always believe what you see on the web... truth and dreams can look the same...

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Something I forgot to say on my first post, of course, these "volume" pistons could be control by pistons on the keyboard, just like ordinary preset pistons.
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[mdyde]

sorry Brett, I forgot I had a NDA (non disclosure agreement) and shouldn't have shown Hauptwerk 4.0!

Just to emphasize - Francois was joking there!

[micdev]

Martin, you definitively must allow "smilies"... my " :-) " probably wasn't clear enough while a bright yellow smilie would have make it clear that I was joking.

Ok, forget HW 4.0.... but give us smilies! :-))))))

[gingercat]

I suspect that it would be handier to use some sort of dynamic range compression (as used by radio stations). That way, you configure how loud you want to be up front, then no matter what you select, it will always be of a similar volume. I would guess you could achieve this using VSTI plugins.

Perhaps if hauptwerk ends up supporting plugins, rather than a specific convolution reverb feature...?

[jmoboe]

I was thinking of posting a message on this very subject since I also have the same problem as François in my small studio. I tried fiddling around with the compressor effect on my soundcard and it works, but not the way I intended. The sound amplitude varies so much from beat to beat that the organ sounds like a piano played by someone with inequal finger control.

I would prefer an approach that did not require user input during performance, however. The dynamic range of a typical organ is quite large (30 to 40 dBs according to the meter on Patchmix). In theory, the output level of each stop could be adjusted so that this dynamic range would be more restricted while maintaining a reasonable output ratio between the stops. I don't know if it would be workable in practice. The situation is quite complex with the different couplings that are used.

I realize that such an approach would change the balance of an organ, but it would be a compromize that I would accept in my situation.

Jean-Marc

[Fokko]

Hi,

It's funny I was thinking about this same enhancement this week but was not ready to describe it on the forum.
The wish comes up when playing improvisation on the Bovenkerk sample set. I have several requirements in mind.

I would suggest an automatic general Db output adjustment as a general function within Hauptwerk itself.
It should be possible to activate or disactivate the function because I can imagine this adjustment is not always necessary or be wished for.
And, it should be nice if the user can set the range of Db and save it as a sampleset preference.

I realize that such an approach would change the balance of an organ, but it would be a compromize that I would accept in my situation.

I agree with that.

[Swift-AU]

I would also like to see this suggestion or something similar implemented. I think the easiest would be to have MIDI switches or controllers able to control the level of audio outputs. One could then use pistons or stops (whether on screen or real) to control the output level of various outputs, or to mute particular outputs.

I have an example at my local church where their old Rodgers console has an extension speaker that can be turned on and off via an "Echo On" tab on the console. I've HWized the organ, and they still require the Echo On tab to work. If I could simply mute the relevant audio output using a HW switch input, life would be so easy. Currently I'm having to use MIDI-OX, MidiYoke and Reaper with MIDI actions, to perform this seemingly simple task - and the end result is still not without its problems.

If there's anyone else out there that could use such a feature, please don't be shy in replying!

-Swift