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question on accidentals in ornaments

Postby 162_Ranks » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:03 am

two parts, in the key of G:

A sharped G in the bass and a flatted F in the treble, marked as a trill. Does the trill go between F(natural) and G(natural) or F(natural) and G#? TBH they both sound weird to me.
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Re: question on accidentals in ornaments

Postby johnstump_organist » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:36 am

What key is the piece in? What is the complete chord, if the piece is in more than two voices at that point? You might try thrilling between f and f#. Ornamentation in baroque music can be very free in using chromatic notes. It would only be a half- step or a step though for a trill, never an augmented second (minor third).
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Re: question on accidentals in ornaments

Postby OrganoPleno » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:34 pm

162_Ranks wrote:A sharped G in the bass and a flatted F in the treble, marked as a trill.


Flatted F? That sounds like E-natural. A trill from there would go to either F-natural or F-sharp.

If you're really in the key of G-major, where all the F's are Sharped, you might try the latter. If there are other F-naturals (or E-sharps?) in the immediate environment, you might try the former.

I agree a trill would NOT be an augmented second (=minor third).
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Re: question on accidentals in ornaments

Postby 162_Ranks » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:53 am

It is "Polonaise BWV Anhang 130" measure 17.

G# in bass against "naturalled" F# -- I think I misspoke above.

I've been trilling Fnat - Gnat and I think it sounds best of the options.
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