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Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:54 am
by sjkartchner
I am intrigued by the possibilities of using Hauptwerk as a portable performance/demonstration system.

This latest find (although certainly not to AGO specs) suggests there may be some workable options out there: http://www.foldingorgan.com/index.html. The JG3 apparently has programmable buttons and sliders that could be used for controlling Hauptwerk functions (especially given how flexible Hauptwerk is for assigning midi data to various functions). And the price ($1,200 USD plus shipping; $1,250 with the carry bag) really isn't that bad considering it uses Fatar keyboards and offers various key style (waterfall or piano) and weighting (semi or organ) options.

Now if there were only available a truly portable (i.e. foldable), reasonably lightweight and priced AGO-style pedalboard that would be suitable for performing organ literature. If anyone knows of such a thing, I would surely like to hear about it.

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:33 am
by sjkartchner
I see that Laukhuff GmbH & Co. in Germany makes a folding parallel (non-AGO) 27- or 30-note MIDI pedalboard called Mopedal which can be seen in the downloadable catalog available on the company's website: http://www.en.laukhuff.de

I have so far been unable to obtain any pricing/availability information for the Mopedal, although it appears to be a workable solution for a portable Hauptwerk rig in conjunction with something like the two-manual JG3 keyboard stack referred to above.

I see no reason why a keyboard/pedalboard combination like this, combined with a laptop installation of Hauptwerk, couldn't be played through a reasonably robust P.A. system for an acceptable pipe organ sound. It seems that the entire Hauptwerk system could be up set up and working within a half hour or less (assuming the P.A. system is already in place).

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:27 pm
by johnh
The keyboard spacing on the JG-3 might be an issue for some players...

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:23 pm
by sjkartchner
Right, as I said, definitely not AGO specs. Just think of the spacing as three manuals without the middle one. :wink:

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:49 pm
by johnstump_organist
In Nov. 2009, the MoPedal was 1,998 Euros shipping to California, where I was living at the time, was 408 Euro.
Lead time was 4-6 weeks after all details had been settled and agreed on.
John

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:37 am
by sjkartchner
Thanks for the info John. That's pretty steep with the current exchange rate. And I assume the price has gone up since then.

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:14 pm
by pat17
johnstump_organist wrote:In Nov. 2009, the MoPedal was 1,998 Euros shipping to California, where I was living at the time, was 408 Euro.
Lead time was 4-6 weeks after all details had been settled and agreed on.
John


In April 2010, it was offered at 1,258 € only (for 27 pedals). I wonder if they were not charging you for the VAT? But even it doesn't explain the 50% gap... :oops:

I'm copying and pasting the email -

Midi Pedalkeyboard parallel, 27 notes, custom made - E 1.258,--

Special depth (length) 620 mm - E 70,--

Sharps of ebony - E 64,--


To be noted they seem to have a real language issue in Laukhuff. The answer was coming - after some time - from Peter Laukhuff himself.

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:54 pm
by johnstump_organist
I had asked for the 30 note. Bit that does seem like a big difference. I had specified woods or anything so maybe my qoute was for all the most expensive options
John

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:56 pm
by sipirc
Hi all,

I have actually posted another thread further above (JG3), unbeknownst that this has already been running. Apologies, perhaps Admin could delete that accordingly? Also interested in the concept myself.

By the way, the console has changed since, the website is a little outdated, I understand. This ebay link gives you a closer idea of the latest design. Gone are the controls on the bottom right (awkward!).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JG3-Folding-Mid ... 2ec6088dd0

Regards,
Greg

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:45 pm
by B. Milan
sipirc wrote:Hi all,

I have actually posted another thread further above (JG3), unbeknownst that this has already been running. Apologies, perhaps Admin can delete that accordingly. Also interested in the concept myself.

Regards,
Greg


Hello Greg,

Thanks for the update, your alternate/duplicate post has been deleted.

Re: Truly Portable Hauptwerk Rig

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:24 pm
by sipirc
Thanks Brett!
Regards,
Greg

JG3 Pedalboard

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:18 pm
by johnsf
I saw a 24 note midi equipped pedal board made by JG3 and am wondering if anyone has tried it. It seems to be available only online so I can’t really get a sense of how close it might be to an AGO full size pedalboard. I have a very tight space. I remember seeing a baroque pedalboard that folded and had wheels a long time ago but that doesn’t seem to be available now. The other nice thing about the JG3 is that you can get the pedals and a folding bench for $620 which sounds pretty cheap compared to other options. Any input on this or other smaller/low profile pedalboards would be great!

Re: JG3 Pedalboard

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:30 pm
by rhedgebeth
The folding pedalboard is still in the Laukhuff catalog - a little difficult to find as it's in the console section of the catalog http://www.en.laukhuff.de/assets/8.pdf, page 8.72. (not in the keyboards and pedalboards section).

Re: JG3 Pedalboard

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:34 am
by sjkartchner
I have the JG3 pedalboard and used it for accompanying a choir at an outdoor venue using just a keyboard and Hauptwerk when space was very tight. Here is the link to that post: http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=16322.

As noted, the JG3 is nowhere near the size of an AGO pedalboard. It is much narrower and much, much shallower. I was unable to use heel-toe pedal technique while wearing organ shoes and could only do so with stocking feet because of the shallowness of the pedalboard. It is quite lightweight which coupled with its compactness can be advantageous in certain circumstances. I wouldn’t want to have to play a solo concert using one, but for accompanying it worked out pretty well.

EDIT: Also, it has somewhat of a light and springy feel, closer to a Hammond B3/C3 pedalboard than a typical AGO pedalboard.

Re: JG3 Pedalboard

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:58 am
by johnsf
Richard,
Thanks for the info about the Laukhuff Mopedal foldable pedal board. I found it in the catalog. I’m going to start another thread about that as it’s not coming up in the forum when I search.