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Re: Fatar - US Distributor

PostTue Dec 08, 2015 7:18 pm

Maybe for those of you who are actual organists. I am a hack organist.
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Re: Fatar - US Distributor

PostMon Dec 14, 2015 2:08 pm

dw154515 wrote:
notdefined wrote:You can get the blank key bed from ClassicMidiworks, but talk directly to Darryl about it. Roman Sowa also makes midi controllers with the funky Fatar connectors. I would much rather have the Loduca keyboards, but sadly they are no longer being manufactured. You can also check with Arndt Organ Supply as they carry Fatar as well.


Thank you for your input. Arndt has EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Fatar Keyboards, with MIDI encoder already on board, which also has connections for 8 pistons, and 3 swell shoes, per manual! It's a perfect fit!

Nice folks, extremely helpful! And VERY reasonably priced, I might add.

Thank you.

I would advise anyone interested, to reach out to Arndt Organ supply.


Are you aware these are not velocity sensitive?
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PostMon Dec 14, 2015 8:30 pm

organtechnology wrote:[

Are you aware these are not velocity sensitive?


I'm still relatively new to this endeavor, and I don't get enough time to sit around and exploit all of the complexities that Hauptwerk has to offer, so please explain the benefit of "velocity sensitive."
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Re: Fatar - US Distributor

PostTue Dec 15, 2015 1:01 am

dw154515 wrote:
organtechnology wrote:[

Are you aware these are not velocity sensitive?


I'm still relatively new to this endeavor, and I don't get enough time to sit around and exploit all of the complexities that Hauptwerk has to offer, so please explain the benefit of "velocity sensitive."


Velocity sensitivity is the change in note volume that is dependent on how hard/fast the key is struck. In a non-velocity keyboard there is only one switch per key, in a velocity sensitive keyboard there are two. The MIDI standard defines a note on event as a both a MIDI Note number value (0-127) and a velocity value (0-127).
The velocity value is calculated by the encoder from the length of time it takes the second switch of each note pair to activate.

In a piano sample this is very important because the loudness of the instrument is controlled by how the strings are hit by the hammers which are launched by how the keys are struck.

In an organ sample set maybe not so much or not at all. Most sample sets of electric-valve controlled wind pipes how fast the valve opens is a constant. The exception being a 'tracker touch' organ which could have the valve opened slowly by a slow depression of the key. This is because the valve and the key are mechanically joined by the tracker mechanism.

If you will never have a piano as one of the ranks in your VPO there is no reason to have a velocity sensitive keyboard. But if you were to add a piano synthesizer module to the Hauptwerk VPO or have a tracker sample set that is velocity sensitive, it would need a velocity sensitive keyboard to respond properly.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Fatar - US Distributor

PostTue Dec 15, 2015 7:28 am

Ok, I knew most of what you just said. My question was largely wondering if there was a relevance to pipe organ samples. Since I am not interested in piano samples, and since I am also not concerned with tracker touch, it seems all is well.

Thank you for the input.
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PostTue Dec 15, 2015 12:24 pm

Telemanr, oh no, some of us arrived in the Hauptwerk world from very different, yet still quite creative pasts.

https://www.nersc.gov/users/staff-blogs/richard-gerber/nersc-pdsf-neutrino-oscillations-and-the-2015-physics-nobel-prize/

I'm the one on the far right. I must admit thought that I'm enjoying the current passion far more than the one in the past.
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PostWed Dec 16, 2015 8:26 pm

Soooo.... does anybody know a rough price for these keyboards from Arndt? :roll:

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Re: Fatar - US Distributor

PostThu Dec 17, 2015 12:20 am

scottherbert wrote:Soooo.... does anybody know a rough price for these keyboards from Arndt? :roll:

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The Arndt organ touch keyboards are $367.00 + Freight. They do not have the stacking brackets Fatar call Chasy brackets. Add $275.00 for piston rail and key cheeks in black.

The Classic MIDI Works version is $525.00 including the Chasy brackets and the ones with the square pistons are $900.00 + freight of course. The CMK keyboards are velocity sensitive.
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