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Keyboards for Schober Recital console

Postby eajohnson » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:43 pm

I have some time coming up to look at updating my Schober set up. Right now I am using the original keyboards with gold spring contacts wired to MIDI encoders--which was an adventure in itself--but the 40 year old keys are starting to show their age! Lots of noise, mushy action, plastic tops of the white keys starting to pit and wear down (I must practice way too much.....NOT).

Anybody have experience putting Fatar TP60s with built in MIDI encoders into a Schober Recital console? Would be interested in hearing about it if you have. It looks like they will fit from the dimensions I have seen but the Recital does not have the usual type of keycheeks--rather has a shelf like wood piece that spans the end of the keyboard to the console frame.

Thanks for any insights you all may have.

Eric
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Re: Keyboards for Schober Recital console

Postby magnaton » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:04 pm

Hello Eric:

I too have a Schober Recital model and lacked the patience you had to MIDI-fy the clacky keyboards with spring board contacts. I did add a reed switch assembly to the pedalboard and 10K ohm slider pots to the expression pedals and had those pieces MIDI encoded and working. However I decided to switch to a different (better) console before dealing with the keyboard section.

Regardless, forum member Al Morse has details showing that Fatar keyboards will fit in a Schober Recital. I don't think he'll mind me publishing a link to his website. You'll also notice that you can even squeeze in a 3rd manual 8). I referenced this site often when I worked on my Schober project.

http://almorse.net/content_organ.html

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Re: Keyboards for Schober Recital console

Postby eajohnson » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:35 pm

Thanks, I went ahead and ordered two Fatar TP60s, I'll let you know how it works out!
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Re: Keyboards for Schober Recital console

Postby eajohnson » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:12 pm

Just to follow up for the record, I ordered two Fatar TP60 keyboards from Arndt Organ Supply. Arndt will supply them with a MIDI encoder for each keyboard--at a very reasonable price. They include the cables that convert the Fatar connectors to the more standard ribbon cable connections. Everything is done for you, easy!

To make the Great TP60 fit I did have to cut down the plastic "feet" at the bottom of the keyboards. They caused the board to be a little over a 16th of an inch too high. I, with some trepidation, decided to cut these down and did manage it successfully using a Dremel with the circular saw bit. The swell keyboard was a bit trickier but fortunately the Schober construction is such that the extension on each side of the TP60s could be easily fitted in. I had to construct supports on each side that fit over the extension of the Great keyboard, just tall enough to give the Swell keyboard the correct height to fit. Bolting these keyboards to the console was the trickiest part! Not much room to maneuver but it worked out. Even though it didn't seem to be absolutely necessary I added a wood piece under the back of the Swell keyboard to give extra support in the center.

Daisy chaining the keyboards to the other encoder (pedals, stop controls and pistons) was easy. It worked first time.

The dimensions of the TP60s are not easy to find, if anyone is ever interested in knowing these give me a note and I'll pass them along. I can recommend Arndt Supply, they were very good and they make the TP60s easy to connect. You can see these keyboards on their homepage under "What's New".

Anybody interested in two old P&R keyboards, already with hours and hours of wiring and soldering into them? :)
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