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Pedal width

Postby EricJ » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:57 pm

I am building a pedalboard from scratch. It seems that most natural pedals on the AGO type pedalboards I have seen are 1 inch wide. My sources for Maple only come in 3/4 and 1 3/4 thicknesses. building a natural pedal 1 inch wide would require buying the 1 3/4 thickness and cutting down to size. This would result in a considerable increase in cost.

would there be any "playability" problems if I made the natural pedals 3/4 inch wide? I am brand new to organ playing so I don't have any experience in playing pedals. I have to make the pedalboard before I can practice. I am trying to avoid unnecessary costs but I don't want to build it cheap, only to have to build a new one later.

I have thought of buying a used pedal board from eBay, but the shipping costs keep them in the $250 range. The woodworking part is no problem, I like building, I am just concerned about cost.
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Re: Pedal width

Postby johnh » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:30 pm

Some pedal keys are made with two pieces of wood, one being a 'cap' on top of the other. Typically both pieces have the same width but I'm wondering if you made yours in a 't' profile, with the 3/4 lumber on it's side forming a wider top if that wouldn't work.

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Re: Pedal width

Postby oliver_mayes » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:27 am

I ordered 5/4 lumber from the lumber yard and it was exactly 1" finished.
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Re: Pedal width

Postby jkinkennon » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:11 am

I just measured the widths on three AGO pedalboards from Allen and Rodgers and found widths on the naturals of about 13/16 inch. One had wider maple caps that were closer to 7/8 inch wide. The sharps were all closer to 3/4 inch. I guess I would lean towards standard nominal 1" widths, actually 3/4" wide, and cut custom maple caps 7/8" wide.
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Re: Pedal width

Postby WayneG » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:54 pm

I just measured my AGO pedals from an old New England pipe organ , i bought from a local organ builder .
It has maple caps 13/16 wide about 7/8 high , on top of oak strips 3/4 wide by 1.5 in high .

If you add your location , someone nearby might become helpful .

My local organ builder in Western Ma, was cleaning out last year and just may still have some used pedals .

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Re: Pedal width

Postby profeluisegarcia » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:59 pm

EricJ wrote:I am building a pedalboard from scratch... the AGO type


Just a comment and question:
I wonder about the real use of the extra F sharp and G recommended by AGO model. Perhaps 99.8% of all organ literature do not requiere those notes.

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Re: Pedal width

Postby RichardW » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:25 am

profeluisegarcia wrote:I wonder about the real use of the extra F sharp and G recommended by AGO model.

AGO were anticipating the Hauptwerk Stepper. Up and Down can usefully be assigned to those two keys. ;)


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Re: Pedal width

Postby telemanr » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:50 am

Contemporary composers will of course wish to use those two keys because they weren’t used in the past. Past bad, future good. And it’s an uncomfortable reach so it’s all good.
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Re: Pedal width

Postby EricJ » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:30 pm

Thanks everyone! Those are excellent suggestions and information. Turns out I was able to find 5/4 maple locally in Anaheim California, cost is $3.70/BF. Most of the boards are 5-6 inches wide so I'll cut 3 inch boards for the naturals and the leftover will work for the base of the Sharps.
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Re: Pedal width

Postby profeluisegarcia » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:44 am

RichardW wrote:
profeluisegarcia wrote:I wonder about the real use of the extra F sharp and G recommended by AGO model.

AGO were anticipating the Hauptwerk Stepper. Up and Down can usefully be assigned to those two keys. ;)


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THANKS for the idea, Richard :idea: . I will apply it to an old Casavant pedalboard I´m going to midify¡.

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Re: Pedal width

Postby RichardW » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:20 pm

profeluisegarcia wrote:THANKS for the idea, Richard :idea: .

No problem!

I would like to claim originality but I pinched it from AJT - apparently five years ago. How time flies. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=10792&p=79554&hilit=pedal#p79554


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