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Re: No sticky on PC specs recommendation

PostMon Oct 12, 2020 6:36 am

naujoks wrote:So how exactly is a discrete soundcard better than the sound module on the mainboard?

On a Mac, the Apple Core Audio is deemed to be sufficiently good quality to use with Hauptwerk.
Windows Direct Sound (the default on-board sound on Windows PC motherboards), is not.
Therefore it is recommended to have a separate pro/semi-pro-standard audio interface when using Windows.
A separate interface is also necessary on a Mac if you want to use more than one pair of speakers or headphones.
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Re: No sticky on PC specs recommendation

PostMon Oct 12, 2020 6:43 am

Now I'm getting confused, sound card and adio interface are seperate things.
My PC has a sound module on the motherboard. On top of that I have a USB audio interface, which lets me connect the stereo loudspeakers to the PC.
The question is whether a separate soundcard, a Creative Soundblaster, for example, makes any difference.
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Re: No sticky on PC specs recommendation

PostMon Oct 12, 2020 7:04 am

naujoks wrote:Now I'm getting confused, sound card and adio interface are seperate things.
My PC has a sound module on the motherboard. On top of that I have a USB audio interface, which lets me connect the stereo loudspeakers to the PC.
The question is whether a separate soundcard, a Creative Soundblaster, for example, makes any difference.

Sorry if I confused you. Audio interfaces are sometimes still referred to as "soundcards", even though most of them nowadays are *external* boxes rather than PCI cards on the motherboard (which most of them used to be, years ago).
If you have a USB audio interface, that is good. Make sure you use its own native ASIO driver - not DirectSound.
You don't need another "soundcard", and I think I'm right in saying that Creative Soundblaster cards are NOT recommended for Hauptwerk. (Martin or François can please correct me if I'm wrong about that.)
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Re: No sticky on PC specs recommendation

PostTue Oct 13, 2020 11:41 pm

A pro AMD comment - I built my machine in 4Q2019, with Video Editing & Hauptwerk as my heavy-lifting use-cases. Wanted to be 128GB memory capable (deployed 2x32GB on first build), with lots of CPU cores. Chose a Ryzen 3900x over the comparable Intel of the day, after having been an Intel guy for a generation. X570 MOBO, M.2 NVME SSD for primary storage, a SATA SSD I had laying around for secondary, HDDs for archival and backup. No special cooling beyond AMD's included CPU fan, until recently when I upgraded to a better fan due to running at 100% CPU & GPU 24x7. No heat issues. No special CPU tweaking in the BIOS, though I did play with tightening up the timings on my memory (DDR4-3200) just to play around. Lots of memory choices available on AMD's compatibility list.

I run Windows 10 Pro, latest general-availability patch levels. I make none of the classic concessions/Window's tweaks to manage latency - my PC is Internet connected full-time, with commercial AV/AM software, internal backups, Internet offsite backup in real time, no disabling of pre-fetch, Windows update enabled, all default stuff plus my favorite utilities loaded and running, and so forth. This is a full general-use PC. I shutdown/change nothing when running Hauptwerk. Never had a hint of a glitch, neither Hauptwerk functional error nor audio.

I ran the HW Polyphony-test organ for 4GB memory, all 500 ranks loaded. Setting it to maximum polyphony (500 pipes/key), I used two sticks to depress all 60 keys at once - reached 50% cpu for the 30,000 pipes.

In March, I started running Fold-at-Home modelling 24x7, at full priority. It is continuously running 22 of 24 CPU threads at 100%, and my NVIDIA 2070 Super GPU at 100%. Can easily play the Pipeloops Notre-Dame Schyven de Laeken or my Friesach without compromise at the same time.

Simply no complaints from me regarding the modern AMD chips.
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Re: No sticky on PC specs recommendation

PostWed Oct 14, 2020 12:22 am

And some folks like Fords while other's like Chevys. My fav is a car that gets me to where I'm going with the least amount of problems. : :)

Minor issue solved, some ATX mobos use 8 pin cpu power cables and some power supplies only provide a 4 pin. Solution:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4Pin-to-8Pin-Convert-Extension-Cable-Converter-Adapter-Cable-For-Power-Supply/193415639540?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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