1961TC4ME wrote:Hi Drew,
Sounds like you're making some headway.
A couple questions for now, probably a few more coming after I scratch my head for a few, and it is kinda getting late.
1. With the current speaker layout are you able to set up the speaker groups in blocks of 4? In other words, can you do it so 4 speakers are set together in a block so 2 are side by side lower with 2 directly above them, like a square of 4 speakers?
2. How many subs do you have and can you set them (or it ) up to receive a mixdown of all?
I'm assuming a yes to both questions.
Also, I've tried the idea of mixing 4' flues with 16' flues as an example, or even 8' and 4' to the same speakers. Let's just say I found they don't play very nice with each other even though they might be from the same family. You gotta keep the ranks together based on length. Unlike my paltry 10 channels which requires some compromise, you've got a ton of channels to easily do this.
Marc
I'm copying my post from last night to make sure it's seen as the posts are pouring in here.
Again, I'll assume a yes to both above questions. I'll also add to what Scott and Danny have contributed. First, yes, the next big jump in sound after your latest routing scheme may very well come from some kind of an attempt at a stacking arrangement. If you can get the 12 per side speaker groups broken down into some arrangement of 4 speakers per group with some separation of each, then I'd think the sound will once again take a jump in the right direction. Although I like to see speakers stacked in a vertical alignment with each other, a stacking of some sort is better than none, and if you can even stack them laying on their sides is good, then go further by separating each stack a foot or so. It appears with the length of the cables going to each monitor this can be done, that is providing there's enough room between the shelves to lay the monitors on top of each other on their sides.
Next, the reason I ask about the sub(s) is I'd keep the idea of routing the pedal ranks as you have to a certain speaker group, but set the sub(s) up so they simply receive a mix-down of all, this way there's no concern that you're missing anything with the subs. I experimented with my own subs just to see where they fall off in the frequency range and surprisingly they do pick up some of the lower octave notes even of the 8' ranks. So, again this way I'm assured they aren't missing anything and it also lessens the routing concern for the subs. If it seems to be working good as is though, that's fine, it's not like you're missing a major chunk of the frequency range but it could prove to be beneficial to set the sub(s) up to mix-down.
Also, something I forgot to mention..... When using this routing scheme, start with the highest pitched ranks closest to the center or in other words the innermost speakers. So, as an example the highest pitched would be channels 1-4 L / R and work your way out to the farthest away speaker groups L / R as you go down in pitch / length. Smallest pipes to the inside, progressing out to the largest pipes on the outside. Picture it like you see in a typical organ case layout. Big pipes on the outer sides of the case, smaller pipes as your work your way to the middle of the case.
Keep us posted on how things are working!
Marc