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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby engrssc » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:13 pm

brooke.benfield wrote:Does this solution also reduce the effective SPL of the subwoofer?


Had the same thought. We had a sub (House Wrecker) that rattled everything. Isol;ated it on heavy foam. No more rattles, and no more solid bass either. Finally found a location where we could cut the carpet away and permit it to rest on the concrete floor. Everything was good including improved bass. Realize that's not an option for everyone.

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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby dw154515 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:31 pm

Not that I can really tell. I do have the mouth of the TubaHT opening into the “A” frame. It works very well and has certainly fixed about 90% of the vibration issues. That Tuba has no trouble with output. Do bear in mind that I didn’t approach this scientifically - almost all of this project had been trial and error. This seemed to be a good solution for us.
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby murph » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:38 pm

Remember: "don't saddle a dead horse".
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby dw154515 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:05 pm

murph wrote:Remember: "don't saddle a dead horse".


?
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby murph » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:36 am

I was referring to the steel rope. That's where the phrase comes from. The saddle should always be on the side with the load.
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby mrkniz » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:40 pm

Drew, I've been thinking about you all day, wondering how the Easter service went with your new Hauptwerk organ. (Some time ago you said that it would be used for the first time on Easter Sunday morning.) Assuming that was so, I, and am sure many others, am dying to hear how things went. I wish I could have been there to see the faces of your congregation when they heard your magnificent creation.

On the other hand, you have mentioned that a dedication service would be forthcoming late this spring. Please keep us posted. Your project has had a great following in the Haupwerk community, and the thought occurred to me that your dedication service might provide a great opportunity for some or us to get together on an informal basis to discuss our respective experiences. It seems there are quite a few of us within driving distance of Greenwood. Any thoughts from you or from the Hauptwerk community? Ken
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby engrssc » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:53 pm

Agree with Ken's thoughts.

Perhaps in addition, is it possible to record and place such an event on YouTube?

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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby dw154515 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:03 pm

Todays' Easter service went beautifully!!!! As I've mentioned before (I think) I am not what I would call a "great" or even "good" organist - I merely love the instrument, so I'm always reluctant to share videos of me playing. The Hauptwerk community isn't a critical bunch from what I've ever experienced, but the YouTube world certainly is. That being said, I may get around to posting some videos of me on there at some point but I am in the process of setting up a YouTube channel for our Music Department in general, and will try to share videos of actual organists playing if they are willing. I would much prefer to share videos of other's playing, and let those who do it best take the helm. I know my strengths and limitations.

I had intended to record this mornings entire service using my personal recording setup but I discovered a few days ago that one of my good tube mics is on the fritz. I took it apart hoping I could easily find the issue but no such luck. As such, the only recording done was by the in-house AV folks and it's typically not of great quality. I am hesitant to share things that don't get the "seal of approval." There are currently a couple of videos of Tim Duckworth playing on the music departments website but nothing major.

https://www.greenwoodumcmusic.org/hauptwerk-organ

That being said, the organ performed BEAUTIFULLY! (The "organist," me, is up for debate!) :lol:

Image

I used the Armley Schulze for the Prelude (Toccata on Amazing Grace - C. Pardini) and first two hymns, and Postlude (Guiting Power), and the SP Casavant for the Offertory (Priere a Notre Dame), Communion (Wine of Peace), and Closing Hymn.

I would LOVE to have you guys come for the dedication event. It is scheduled for June 22 (time TBD) but will be in the afternoon/early evening. I currently have two of Indy's finest organists - Dr. Marko Petricic (University of Indianapolis and North Minster Presbyterian) and Dr. John Allegar (2nd Presbyterian) doing the "Classical" side of the program, and Timothy Duckworth (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYU1d81B1zsJ8FBjUX0nEPw) doing the Theater organ portion, and I'm looking to get one more theater organist. Unfortunately, I'm pretty disconnected from the theater organ scene here but I'm working on it. I am trying to talk my beautiful and talented fiance, Sarah, to play my arrangement of Rhapsody in Blue for theater organ and piano. (Basically the Theater organ part is just the orchestra reduction - piano part is the original) but we will see if I can talk her into it.... she's an EXCELLENT pianist, and we've played the piano four hand Rhapsody in Blue multiple times but I doubt my abilities on the theater organ....

The project has attracted the attention of a couple of different news agencies who have contacted me about doing a story on the project, so I will certainly share those as they happen.

I've played for several churches, and having come away from my first service at a "Hauptwerk," I can say that, when keeping my nerves in check, the instrument itself is, to no credit of my own, remarkable! What you can do with this platform is nothing short of AWESOME! The fact that I can use that big Armley Schulze to quite literally make the rafters shake on Christ the Lord is Risen Today - with that solo Choir Trumpet as an independent rank, on it's own expression pedal (pretty much making it an expressive solo Tuba) - but then being able to switch to the Casavant, utilizing that lovely Flute Dolce and Flute Celeste and Voce Umana Principal Celeste, Coupled at 16', 8', 4' on the offertory/communion is just the greatest thing ever.

We currently have the following sets installed:

Casavant Op. 3742 - SP
Reuter Op. 227 - SP
Freiberg Petrikirche - SP
Armley Schulze - LA
Paramount 341

Other sets I've tried on the organ:

Everything from Piotr Grabowski
Connoisseur Series Virtual Theatre Organ (AWESOME on this rig, BTW)

...and I'm still undecided on the Metz / Caen, though I'm heavily leaning towards Caen because of the Wet/Dry/Surround options, though other's have voted for Metz. I'm so torn, here.

LASTLY, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY....
It is my utmost conviction to make this instrument accessible to EVERYONE as much as possible. I've never understood why some people/churches are so protective and restrictive of their organs. The whole purpose of me doing this was to do the exact opposite - this thing lives and exists for the sake of being a beacon to any and all who are willing to experience it - the very essence of what a church should be. Regardless of ones own religious convictions, political ideology, background, etc., if you are willing to let this thing inspire you, then how could I ever prevent anyone from coming to experience it. Please, come and play. Come and listen. Everyone! Anyone!
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby TheOrganDoc » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:32 pm

Hello Drew,
I am most happy to read here that you have this Organ Playing, I have been here in the background, watching your progress !
My project is very different, as It utilizes the Paramount 3/ 32 sample set, although my repair experience was principally, Classic Pipe Organ Tuning and repair, as well as Installation and maintenance of a few Wurlitzer Theater Pipe Organs. I truly enjoy my ("MeliTzer" -" 2/14" , that resides in our spare bedroom, Music Room) with it's 8 Behringer 2031A's, and an, 18" pro Sub-Woofer.
Our very best wishes with your "Beautiful Installation" Mel Wexler, (TheOrganDoc) @ HW ! :D



dw154515 wrote:Todays' Easter service went beautifully!!!! As I've mentioned before (I think) I am not what I would call a "great" or even "good" organist - I merely love the instrument, so I'm always reluctant to share videos of me playing. The Hauptwerk community isn't a critical bunch from what I've ever experienced, but the YouTube world certainly is. That being said, I may get around to posting some videos of me on there at some point but I am in the process of setting up a YouTube channel for our Music Department in general, and will try to share videos of actual organists playing if they are willing. I would much prefer to share videos of other's playing, and let those who do it best take the helm. I know my strengths and limitations.

I had intended to record this mornings entire service using my personal recording setup but I discovered a few days ago that one of my good tube mics is on the fritz. I took it apart hoping I could easily find the issue but no such luck. As such, the only recording done was by the in-house AV folks and it's typically not of great quality. I am hesitant to share things that don't get the "seal of approval." There are currently a couple of videos of Tim Duckworth playing on the music departments website but nothing major.

https://www.greenwoodumcmusic.org/hauptwerk-organ

That being said, the organ performed BEAUTIFULLY! (The "organist," me, is up for debate!) :lol:

Image

I used the Armley Schulze for the Prelude (Toccata on Amazing Grace - C. Pardini) and first two hymns, and Postlude (Guiting Power), and the SP Casavant for the Offertory (Priere a Notre Dame), Communion (Wine of Peace), and Closing Hymn.

I would LOVE to have you guys come for the dedication event. It is scheduled for June 22 (time TBD) but will be in the afternoon/early evening. I currently have two of Indy's finest organists - Dr. Marko Petricic (University of Indianapolis and North Minster Presbyterian) and Dr. John Allegar (2nd Presbyterian) doing the "Classical" side of the program, and Timothy Duckworth (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYU1d81B1zsJ8FBjUX0nEPw) doing the Theater organ portion, and I'm looking to get one more theater organist. Unfortunately, I'm pretty disconnected from the theater organ scene here but I'm working on it. I am trying to talk my beautiful and talented fiance, Sarah, to play my arrangement of Rhapsody in Blue for theater organ and piano. (Basically the Theater organ part is just the orchestra reduction - piano part is the original) but we will see if I can talk her into it.... she's an EXCELLENT pianist, and we've played the piano four hand Rhapsody in Blue multiple times but I doubt my abilities on the theater organ....

The project has attracted the attention of a couple of different news agencies who have contacted me about doing a story on the project, so I will certainly share those as they happen.

I've played for several churches, and having come away from my first service at a "Hauptwerk," I can say that, when keeping my nerves in check, the instrument itself is, to no credit of my own, remarkable! What you can do with this platform is nothing short of AWESOME! The fact that I can use that big Armley Schulze to quite literally make the rafters shake on Christ the Lord is Risen Today - with that solo Choir Trumpet as an independent rank, on it's own expression pedal (pretty much making it an expressive solo Tuba) - but then being able to switch to the Casavant, utilizing that lovely Flute Dolce and Flute Celeste and Voce Umana Principal Celeste, Coupled at 16', 8', 4' on the offertory/communion is just the greatest thing ever.

We currently have the following sets installed:

Casavant Op. 3742 - SP
Reuter Op. 227 - SP
Freiberg Petrikirche - SP
Armley Schulze - LA
Paramount 341

Other sets I've tried on the organ:

Everything from Piotr Grabowski
Connoisseur Series Virtual Theatre Organ (AWESOME on this rig, BTW)

...and I'm still undecided on the Metz / Caen, though I'm heavily leaning towards Caen because of the Wet/Dry/Surround options, though other's have voted for Metz. I'm so torn, here.

LASTLY, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY....
It is my utmost conviction to make this instrument accessible to EVERYONE as much as possible. I've never understood why some people/churches are so protective and restrictive of their organs. The whole purpose of me doing this was to do the exact opposite - this thing lives and exists for the sake of being a beacon to any and all who are willing to experience it - the very essence of what a church should be. Regardless of ones own religious convictions, political ideology, background, etc., if you are willing to let this thing inspire you, then how could I ever prevent anyone from coming to experience it. Please, come and play. Come and listen. Everyone! Anyone!
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby dw154515 » Sun May 05, 2019 7:42 pm

I used Caen today for the service and it was pretty awesome! I'm happy with that choice. No doubt I I also want the Metz at some point, too but for now this will suffice.

The dedication program is coming together. June 22nd at 4PM. I will post the program here once it is complete. Counting myself, there will be 5 people playing on that concert, and some great music!
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby dw154515 » Mon May 13, 2019 8:01 pm

Folks, I wanted to share some information about the upcoming concert on June 22nd at 4pm.

Greenwood United Methodist Church
525 North Madison Ave.
Greenwood, IN 46143

But before that, a bit of bad news.

Theater organist and friend Tim Duckworth has been missing since May 3. His car was found abandoned with his shoes, wallet, and phone inside.

https://www.wthr.com/article/police-foul-play-cant-be-ruled-out-case-missing-columbus-man

https://www.missingpersonsofamerica.com/2019/05/06/tim-duckworth-missing-from-indiana-after-car-got-stuck/

Tim did an amazing job voicing the Paramount 341 and Neil Jensen connoisseur set for me. Tim is/was also scheduled to be a part of this event. We hope and pray for his safe return. If he's not here, another organist is being arranged, and the theater portion of the concert will be to help raise awareness for Tim and keep the story live and in front of the public.

As for the program....

1735 Gottfried Silbermann organ of Petrikirche
Freiberg, Saxony, Germany

Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam BMV 684
Ich ruf’ zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ BWV 639

1869 Edmund Schulze organ of The Church of St. Bartholomew
Armley, Leeds, England

Three Preludes Founded on Welsh Hymn Tunes: No. 2, Rhosymedre Ralph Vaughan Williams
“Nimrod” from the Enigma Variations Op. 36 Sir Edward Elgar arr. Robert Gower
Three Psalm Preludes: Set 2, Op. 32: No. 3 “Sing unto him a new song” Herbert Howells

1882 Aristide Cavaillé-Coll organ of St. Etienne Abbey
Caen, Normandy, France

Veni Creator en taille à 5 (Plein jeu) Nicolas de Grigny
Suite du deuxième tone  II. Tierce en taille  Jean Adam Guilain
Pièce Héroïque César Frank
Trois Préludes et Fugues Op. 7: No. 3 in G Minor Marcel Dupré

INTERMISSION

Casavant / Reuter
A selection of American pieces (TBD)

Paramount 341 / Neil Jensen Connoisseur
Theater organ (selected pieces TBD)
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby engrssc » Mon May 13, 2019 8:52 pm

dw154515 wrote:Folks, I wanted to share some information about the upcoming concert on June 22nd at 4pm.


The address again?

Our prayers that Tim is found and esp that he is ok.

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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby dw154515 » Tue May 14, 2019 12:52 am

Greenwood United Methodist Church
525 North Madison Ave.
Greenwood, IN 46143
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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby engrssc » Tue May 14, 2019 5:14 pm

Any word about Tim?

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Re: Large Church Installation - Open Conversation, Please

Postby dw154515 » Tue May 14, 2019 6:20 pm

Nothing official, yet, but it’s not looking good.
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