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Crating Midi Files for Hauptwerk (newbie)

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Crating Midi Files for Hauptwerk (newbie)

Postby mozartius » Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:55 am

Hi
Csn anyone explain in simple terms how to create midi files to upload to hauptwerk using cubase. Is there a way to allocate the swell and grand and pedals and stops? I can write sheet music using bass and treble but wouldnt know to do a midi file on cubase allocating the extra features?

Any advice much appreciated.
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Re: Crating Midi Files for Hauptwerk (newbie)

Postby mdyde » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:19 pm

Hello Mozartius,

Welcome to the forum. (I've moved your topic here since as far as I know you're currently using the Free or evaluation editions.)

If you want to create a MIDI file that will play back in Hauptwerk's built-in MIDI player then, with the desired organ loaded (St. Anne's, for example) you need to use the specific, fixed MIDI implementation that the 'Recording | View MIDI recorder/player/sequencer MIDI implementation (for this organ)' menu function describes.

For example, with St. Anne's, in order for MIDI notes in your MIDI file to play on the virtual Swell manual you need the notes to be on MIDI channel 3.

The 'MIDI sequencing, the Hauptwerk AU/VST Link and applying real-time reverb' section in the main Hauptwerk user guide (on the Help menu in Hauptwerk; pages 181-199 in the current v4.2.1 version) covers everything in detail, and it's important to read through that section, especially if you're aiming to use Cubase to play Hauptwerk directly, since Hauptwerk works differently to conventional VST plug-in instruments. In particular, the 'Composing pieces off-line from a MIDI sequencer configured conventionally (Hauptwerk as a ‘slave’ MIDI device)' sub-section (pages 189-194) has step-by-step instructions for using Hauptwerk with a sequencer in the traditional way.

However, if you're just using Cubase to create/edit MIDI files, and then loading them in Hauptwerk's built-in MIDI player then you don't need to connect the two applications together -- just make sure you use the MIDI implementation described by the 'Recording | View MIDI recorder/player/sequencer MIDI implementation (for this organ)' menu function.
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Martin.

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Re: Crating Midi Files for Hauptwerk (newbie)

Postby OrganoPleno » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:11 pm

mdyde wrote:If you want to create a MIDI file that will play back in Hauptwerk's built-in MIDI player then, with the desired organ loaded (St. Anne's, for example) you need to use the specific, fixed MIDI implementation that the 'Recording | View MIDI recorder/player/sequencer MIDI implementation (for this organ)' menu function describes.


The other approach is to let Hauptwerk do the translating into its own specific fixed MIDI implementation.

Using the sequencer of your choice, play your MIDI file so that Hauptwerk will respond. This could be within Cubase using Hauptwerk as a VST plug-in, or it could be a free-standing Sequencer (Cubase or other) sending MIDI signals to free-standing Hauptwerk (over a virtual internal MIDI cable such as LoopBe, or with real cables connecting a MIDI-out port to a different MIDI-in port). Hauptwerk will respond differently depending on whether your sequencer input is interpreted by HW as sequencer input or as Console Input, so test and experiment and take your choice.

If you have a MIDI-monitoring program, you can see what MIDI-output your Console generates when you use a swell-pedal or a crescendo-pedal, then program your Sequencer to give the same output (using a "continuous controller" in the Sequencer). Likewise, find out which MIDI Channel corresponds to each Manual or each Division on your Organ.

For registrations, I find it best to program all the desired registrations for a piece (in order) into the Registration Stepper, and then program the Stepper (in HW) to respond to a given "note-on" signal (such as middle-C) on an otherwise-unused Channel (perhaps Channel 8 ), then set up a special registration track in your Sequencer that plays that note every time the Registration should change.

Once the Sequencer gets HW to play exactly as you would like, then just press "MIDI-Record" (could be assigned to a Console Piston) just before a play-back, and then HW will translate everything into its own terms. The resulting MIDI file will play directly on HW (through HW's own player) and will no longer depend on the Sequencer or Cubase or VST's or what's in the Registration Stepper. It becomes completely self-contained... exactly as you requested.

Sorry that this is a bit involved, but there really is no shortcut. Just keep playing with it and testing it and little by little everything may come into place.

Enjoy!
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Re: Crating Midi Files for Hauptwerk (newbie)

Postby mozartius » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:31 pm

Thanks guys. This is most awesome. It was the chevalier de sangreal by hans zimmer played on the hereford.organ on you tube that brought me here.
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Re: Crating Midi Files for Hauptwerk (newbie)

Postby OrganoPleno » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:01 pm

mozartius wrote:Thanks guys. This is most awesome. It was the chevalier de sangreal by hans zimmer played on the hereford.organ on you tube that brought me here.


Thanks for the reference. This was done by one of our own, and you can hear (or download) the audio file here:

http://www.contrebombarde.com/concerthall/music/8916

Welcome to the Hauptwerk Community. You can hear lots of interesting HW performances on the ContreBombarde.com Website... some live play and some via MIDI. Some MIDI work is from a simple scan of the Score, and some has rich interpretation like what you are interested in.

There's so much that can be done, and it can be tremendously satisfying every step along the way. And on-line friends to help as issues arise.

Enjoy!
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