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Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 8:07 am

Dear Martin,
I successful have updated to HW5. A new problem, what I didn't have in HW4, is following:if I turn off the motor for the wind modul , the bellows go down to zero, but it remains a very detuning sound of the sample. I can by Organ preferences disable the wind modul, but naturally the wind modul doesn't work . Do you have any Idee? It's by all sample sets, wehre you can turn off the motor .
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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 8:59 am

Good morning,

Do you have this problem with all your sample sets? Can you tell me which organ are affected by this behaviour. If you try with St-Anne, do you have the same effect/problem.

If needed, you can send me a diagnostic file to support[at]hauptwerk.com

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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 9:07 am

Hello münsterorganist (and Francois),

Piotr Grabowski mentioned last night that one of his sample sets doesn't fade to silence in v5 when the virtual blower is switched off, whereas it did in v4. I've confirmed that to be the case, and also now that the Mt. Carmel Skinner's pipes don't quite fade to silent in that situation (although they do become quieter).

Hence there is some difference in behaviour between v4 and v5 when the virtual blower is switched off (at least with those sample sets). I will investigate. (It could just be that the wind supply models in those sample sets need tweaking for best results in that situation with v5, since v5 processes the wind supply model at higher time resolutions/quality.)

In any case, the work-around is simply to avoid turning the virtual blower off. (In normal use, one wouldn't ever want to turn the blower off anyway, except as a fun novelty.)
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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 11:50 am

Thank you for answer. Yes, by all sets, which can turn off the motor, there are the same problems. We just need to show the effek for students.. It is not so important.
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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 12:02 pm

Can you give me the list of the organs that you own, use.

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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 12:18 pm

I've tried a few sets — just have to figure out which of them can be turned off since it isn't something I normally do.

As a sampling, Strassburg, Caen surround, and Menesterol all have very bizarre effects after the wind supply is gone.
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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 12:19 pm

It's also when you have forgotten to turn on the calcant/motor.

The Bätz organ in Zeist (NL) has the same (https://www.hauptwerk.nl/batzzeisten.php)

Velesovo als has a calcant but is not tested by me.
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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 1:10 pm

Tested: Zwolle, Caen, Strassburg, Maximin, the same at all.
But it is for playing not important.
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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 1:52 pm

Thanks. I'll investigate.

Edit: P.S. No need to list any more sample sets -- that's plenty for me to going on with -- thanks. It might take a few days to investigate, but I'll post a status update to this thread when I have some results.
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Re: Wind model

PostFri Feb 14, 2020 9:51 pm

Have noticed this as well, but didn't think it was worth mentioning in the context of other issues I am trying to sort out. Great to know that I'm not going crazy. In this respect, at least.
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Re: Wind model

PostSun Feb 16, 2020 10:48 am

A quick status update to say that I've investigated this, and it did indeed turn out to be a very minor bug, in that a pipe's sound wasn't being fully muted if the virtual blower was switched off and the pipe's air flow rate had fallen to zero. There were no other implications, and the wind supply model is definitely correct in other situations and respects. I've fixed the bug, and the fix will probably be released in the next version after v5.0.1 (since it's very minor, and we wouldn't want to hold up v5.0.1's release for it).
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Re: Wind model

PostMon Feb 17, 2020 2:33 am

Dear Martin, many thanks.
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Re: Wind model

PostMon Feb 17, 2020 5:17 am

Thanks. You're very welcome. My apologies for the bug.
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Re: Wind model

PostMon Feb 17, 2020 2:54 pm

mdyde wrote:My apologies for the bug.


Apologies OT.

Some IT definitions:

Debugging: Removing bugs from a computer program.

System Enhancement: Putting them all back again!
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Re: Wind model

PostMon Feb 17, 2020 2:58 pm

Ha!
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