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Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ?

PostTue Dec 05, 2017 5:27 pm

How would one transfer combinations generated in at home practice sessions to the church organ. The practice organ and church organ are running the same sample set and are the same version of Hauptwerk.

Each Sunday would be stored in a named combination file (Sunday_10_DEC_2017 for example) while playing and practicing at home. Then as the effort moves to the church for practice, it would be nice to be able to upload the work without repeating it. It is Hauptwerk>Hauptwerk and Hereford XL>Hereford XL but the differences in console configurations makes a backup and restore not to be an option.

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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostWed Dec 06, 2017 3:00 am

Copy and paste.
Using a memory stick or portable hard drive, copy the relevant combination file from one PC and paste it into the appropriate folder in the other PC.
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostWed Dec 06, 2017 5:56 am

Hello Thomas,

- On the computer from which you wish to export the combination set, with the relevant organ loaded, use 'Registration | Browse/rename/delete combination sets' to open a file browser in the relevant folder.

- Copy the relevant combination set (file) from that folder onto a USB stick (or similar).

- On the computer into which you wish to import the combination set, with the relevant organ loaded, use 'Registration | Import combination set' to import the file directly from the USB stick.
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostWed Dec 06, 2017 8:18 am

Now that's a cool, useful feature. 8)

Could that created file be sent via email as an attachment?

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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostWed Dec 06, 2017 8:42 am

Hello Ed,

It's just a file, so yes -- you could transfer it between the computers by any means you like, including as an email attachment. (However, for good measure it might be best to ZIP it in that case, to make sure the email software doesn't try to alter it.)
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostWed Dec 06, 2017 10:31 am

Something like this device (mounted under the key desk) could be useful.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-AUX-Extension-Dash-Flush-Panel-Mount-Cable-For-Car-Boat-Motorcycle/401206438416?epid=735095824&hash=item5d69c46a10:g:tigAAOSw4shYAG8u&vxp=mtr

plus there is a provision for an extended headset.

(Trying to figure how to do this on a headless installation).

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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostThu Dec 07, 2017 11:50 am

Thank you Dr. Dyde!
That should work nicely.

Best regards,

Thomas

mdyde wrote:Hello Thomas,

- On the computer from which you wish to export the combination set, with the relevant organ loaded, use 'Registration | Browse/rename/delete combination sets' to open a file browser in the relevant folder.

- Copy the relevant combination set (file) from that folder onto a USB stick (or similar).

- On the computer into which you wish to import the combination set, with the relevant organ loaded, use 'Registration | Import combination set' to import the file directly from the USB stick.
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostThu Dec 07, 2017 11:52 am

Hi Douglas,

That was my first thought and then I decided to ask the forum.
Hope things are going well with you.

Best regards,

Thomas

dhm wrote:Copy and paste.
Using a memory stick or portable hard drive, copy the relevant combination file from one PC and paste it into the appropriate folder in the other PC.
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostThu Dec 07, 2017 11:53 am

Yes that solution does require access to a USB connection on both organs. Fortunately there are such on the organs.

Best regards,

Thomas

engrssc wrote:Something like this device (mounted under the key desk) could be useful.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-AUX-Extension-Dash-Flush-Panel-Mount-Cable-For-Car-Boat-Motorcycle/401206438416?epid=735095824&hash=item5d69c46a10:g:tigAAOSw4shYAG8u&vxp=mtr

plus there is a provision for an extended headset.

(Trying to figure how to do this on a headless installation).

Rgds,
Ed
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostThu Dec 07, 2017 11:56 am

Thanks, Thomas.

You're very welcome. Glad to hear that's viable for the situation.
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostFri Dec 08, 2017 1:05 pm

Transferring and importing registrations between HW computers with identical sample sets is neat but almost expected in today's world of data integration (i.e. MS Outlook, Google, Yahoo, and iPhone calendars can all be in sync and remain so regardless of which one gets updated).

I wanted add an observation to this thread that might have been overlooked. I am assisting a colleague and we are making use of the Hauptwerk Export/view current combinations as text listing feature to expedite preparation for an organ performance. My friend is quite talented and was asked to provide a 45 minute Christmas program on a Wurlitzer pipe organ in a historic town north of Dallas, TX. The logistics of this deal is that he will only get access to the instrument an hour before his performance! Fortunately the nature of this program will be informal but he still wants to be prepared allowing lots of registration changes typical of TO playing. There will most likely be folks in attendance hearing the Wurlitzer for the first time so he wants to exploit the many voices and percussions it has to offer.

He downloaded and installed the free Paramount 3/10 and set up the "numbered" pistons accordingly. The Wurlitzer pipe organ is 17 ranks vs the Paramount being only 10 ranks. Regardless this will allow for some productive practice with registration changes. The Wurlitzer has an electronic relay with plenty of vacant memory levels available. When he gets his Paramount pistons finalized, he will email the HW generated text listing, probably in a pdf format, to the organ curators at the venue so they can pre-program a memory level prior to his arrival. 8) This will be a tremendous time saver.

Can we continue to brag about the power Hauptwerk? :-)

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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostFri Dec 08, 2017 1:08 pm

magnaton wrote:Transferring and importing registrations between HW computers with identical sample sets is neat but almost expected in today's world of data integration (i.e. MS Outlook, Google, Yahoo, and iPhone calendars can all be in sync and remain so regardless of which one gets updated).

I wanted add an observation to this thread that might have been overlooked. I am assisting a colleague and we are making use of the Hauptwerk Export/view current combinations as text listing feature to expedite preparation for an organ performance. My friend is quite talented and was asked to provide a 45 minute Christmas program on a Wurlitzer pipe organ in a historic town north of Dallas, TX. The logistics of this deal is that he will only get access to the instrument an hour before his performance! Fortunately the nature of this program will be informal but he still wants to be prepared allowing lots of registration changes typical of TO playing. There will most likely be folks in attendance hearing the Wurlitzer for the first time so he wants to exploit the many voices and percussions it has to offer.

He downloaded and installed the free Paramount 3/10 and set up the "numbered" pistons accordingly. The Wurlitzer pipe organ is 17 ranks vs the Paramount being only 10 ranks. Regardless this will allow for some productive practice with registration changes. The Wurlitzer has an electronic relay with plenty of vacant memory levels available. When he gets his Paramount pistons finalized, he will email the HW generated text listing, probably in a pdf format, to the organ curators at the venue so they can pre-program a memory level prior to his arrival. 8) This will be a tremendous time saver.

Can we continue to brag about the power Hauptwerk? :-)

Danny B.

Is that the 'Mighty Wurlitzer' in Mckinney?
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostFri Dec 08, 2017 1:22 pm

magnaton wrote:I wanted add an observation to this thread that might have been overlooked. I am assisting a colleague and we are making use of the Hauptwerk Export/view current combinations as text listing feature to expedite preparation for an organ performance. My friend is quite talented and was asked to provide a 45 minute Christmas program on a Wurlitzer pipe organ in a historic town north of Dallas, TX.
Danny B.

organtechnology wrote:Is that the 'Mighty Wurlitzer' in McKinney?


Yes it is :-). The program is on December 17th.
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostSun May 07, 2023 9:55 am

mdyde wrote:Hello Thomas,

- On the computer from which you wish to export the combination set, with the relevant organ loaded, use 'Registration | Browse/rename/delete combination sets' to open a file browser in the relevant folder.

- Copy the relevant combination set (file) from that folder onto a USB stick (or similar).

- On the computer into which you wish to import the combination set, with the relevant organ loaded, use 'Registration | Import combination set' to import the file directly from the USB stick.


Does this transfer method work between HW 4.2 and 7, and vice versa?
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Re: Combination transfer from practice organ to church organ

PostSun May 07, 2023 12:48 pm

Hello seh52,

You could transfer in that way from v4.2 to v7, but not the other way around (since v4 wouldn't understand the newer file format).
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