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How to detect a fourth manual

Postby EricMcK » Wed May 09, 2018 2:09 am

Hello, all...

Taking a three-manual Classic Midiworks console to four manuals. Got the fourth manual installed tonight and programmed for MIDI channel 5. The organ currently has the three-manual Mt Carmel Skinner set; we’ll be getting Hereford as soon as the additional speakers arrive but want to have a Solo division anyway with Mt Carmel.

Is there a way to make HW recognize the new manual without going back to square one and auto-detecting everything? I’m afraid of losing hundreds of saved pistons.

My next question will be how to assign certain ranks to the fourth manual, but let’s take things one step at a time. As always, I am so appreciative for the collective wisdom of this community!

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Re: How to detect a fourth manual

Postby IainStinson » Wed May 09, 2018 5:56 am

1. Where the virtual organ being played has four manuals, but on the three manual console one of the manuals was not configured, you can use auto detect to add the fourth physical manual (right click on the fourth manual on the display and select auto detect as proceed as usual, or you can add it through the menu system). This will not modify any other settings.

2. Where the virtual organ has only three manuals you can't add a fourth virtual manual, You can however use the fourth physical manual to duplicate one of the three virtual manuals using the second input tab and auto detecting the fourth manual. It will then duplicate the chosen division (and the stops selected will play on both physical keyboards. Again this will not modify any existing settings.

3, If the virtual organ has fewer manual divisions than then number of physical keyboards on the console, you can use the floating divisions feature to make use of the "extra" keyboard(s). I usually configure an extra physical keyboard as a coupler manual (which for example, plays the swell and great divisions "permanently coupled". See viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14765 for details. This should not change any existing settings.

4. If you wanted to modify a three manual virtual organ so that it had a fourth manual division, you would need to create a custom organ definition of some type to do this - see CODM and/or ODF. You would need to autodetect the settings for the "new" organ.

Take a backup of your settings before you start in case anything "goes wrong".


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Re: How to detect a fourth manual

Postby B. Milan » Wed May 09, 2018 12:20 pm

Hello Eric,

It isn't possible for the user to create an additional virtual division (or to assign stops to it) for an existing sample set, except by using the Custom Organ Design Module to create a new organ definition from scratch with whatever specification might be desired which is potentially a fairly sizeable and complex undertaking. Therefore for an additional MIDI manual to beneficial one really needs to use a sample set with at least that many virtual divisions.
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Re: How to detect a fourth manual

Postby EricMcK » Wed May 09, 2018 12:22 pm

Thank you both - I will let that idea go, and we'll enjoy the fourth manual with Hereford and Salisbury.
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Re: How to detect a fourth manual

Postby jkinkennon » Wed May 09, 2018 1:25 pm

Try using the fourth manual to play something like the Pianoteq piano emulation as well as bells, church bells, and other optional instruments such as harpsichord. The technical side can be a little more complicated, but the results are wonderful.
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