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Multiple expression pedal configurations

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:04 pm
by psallo
Assuming a case in which a console has 3 expression pedals, does Hauptwerk provide a way to set up and easily select from multiple expression pedal configurations? For example, configuration A might be

Swell expression
Choir expression

and configuration B might be

Swell expression
Choir expression
Solo expression

etc., and some sort of menu would allow one to quickly select which configuration to use.

Re: Multiple expression pedal configurations

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:25 pm
by mnailor
The expression and crescendo (including master cresc) are MIDI assigned per sampleset, not globally, so not really.

Each sampleset would have to provide the functionality, like newer Sonus Paradisi ones do with their pedal matrix screen.

You might be able to do part of it for each sampleset by using floating divisions expression sliders (not sure if those transfer or not), but crescendo wouldn't be part of that.

Re: Multiple expression pedal configurations

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:07 am
by StephenM

You ask a question I have asked before in this forum.

As long as one of your pedal options is not the master volume, several recent Sonus Paradisi sets (eg Hill) do exactly what you want.

Check out the pedal matrix screen. It works on the trials if you want to try it out.

To include the master volume (eg switching between master volume and crescendo) I have a dual pot on the pedal and a physical switch to choose which pot is actually active, pot A, pot B or both.


Re: Multiple expression pedal configurations

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:28 am
by mdyde
Hello Psallo,

[Topic moved here.]

As Mark and Stephen mentioned, MIDI expression pedals are mapped to virtual expression pedals on a per-organ basis, but beyond that Hauptwerk doesn't have dedicated functionality natively from switching MIDI expression pedal assignments around in real-time (aside from the floating divisions, which can't be used for virtual crescendo pedals). However, it is logged as an enhancement request.

Some sample sets do implement such functionality within their organ definitions (e.g. some recent ones from Sonus Paradisi, and the Hereford Cathedral sample set from Lavender Audio).

Re: Multiple expression pedal configurations

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:49 pm
by psallo
Thanks, mnailor, Stephen and Martin, for the helpful replies. I'm glad to hear this idea is a potential enhancement.

In the meantime, I wonder what existing Hauptwerk users have done in a situation like this. For example, let's say that a Hauptwerk organ has only 3 expression pedals, but one desires to use a sample set for an organ that has 3 divisions under expression (e.g., Choir, Swell and Solo).

Do people find that it is essential for each of those 3 divisions to have their own independent expression pedal, so that they are willing to forego having a crescendo pedal for that sample set?

Or, do they typically regard having a crescendo pedal as important enough to force two of the divisions under expression (e.g., Choir + Solo) to share one of the 2 remaining expression pedals?

Re: Multiple expression pedal configurations

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:31 pm
by engrssc
Check with Jake subbas32 -, He can make it happen just as you want whether the sample set has it natively or not. He will do it on a sample set by sample set basis very reasonably. (Plus other neat stuff as well - by modifying/editing the ODF). He's done several projects for me such as adding sostenuto (mostly found on theatre organs) to several of my classical organs. (Ever need an extra hand?) He's a talented "resource". 8)

He added virtual switches (which can be auto-detected so you can rout (via real switches) as to which expr pedal controls which division.

Would be nice if all of that could be features of Hauptwerk. - hint, hint Martin :wink:

And there are some "purists" that will say "But that's not authentic". So - - - :roll:

BTW, since I haven't "said" it yet, Happy NewYear and a sincere wish that you all stay safe. Best. :)