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Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby OAM » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:19 pm

Hello all,

the Arlesheim web site is now nearly complete
http://www.organartmedia.com/en/silbermann-metzler.html

You'll find a short instrument description, the photo gallery and console screens as well as specification and requirements.
Though having full native tremulant implementation, the complete set can be loaded in an 8-GB system, with a few ranks disabled and single loop even in 4 GB!

The final set will include a 16-page booklet with a lot of historical organ and restoration information and historical photos.
The set should be ready for ordering about end of May.
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby jcrowley » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:06 am

Greetings!

I just spent the better part of an afternoon listening to the samples of this spectacular instrument on the Contrabombarde site.

WOW! and that is an understatement. The clarity and sonority in my opinion is one of the best sample sets that I have heard. I may be in the minority of organists and enthusiasts because I always think that "less" is "more" and I do not seek huge instruments out although they are certainly fun and can be quite thrilling.

This instrument seems to have a very unique overall timbre that balances all voices with the natural room acoustics very well. The reed-to-flue ratio also seems perfect.

It looks like I'll have to save more scheckles so I can add this set to my collection!

All my best,

Jeffery
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby micha_fr » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:02 pm

If I am right the Silbermann Arlesheim has got mechanical action. So I wonder if the sample set provides velocity sensitivity. I mean, are there two or more chiff samples depending on the keystroke?
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby micha_fr » Tue May 01, 2012 4:16 pm

Can nobody answer my question? :cry:
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby OAM » Wed May 02, 2012 6:01 am

The Arlesheim organ doesn't support tracker action velocity.

This effect is usually too much overestimated. Only smaller tracker action organs may show a significant effect.
Due to the pallet size of bigger organs, the effect is minimal and usually unpredictable.
That means, there is no dependence in such a way, that pressing the key slowly implies, that you don't get an expressive chiff.
I even have observed the contradictory effect sometimes!

Much more influence has the release velocity on the sound, especially in slower movements (and especially for cone valves!).
Unfortunately I don't know any keyboard, which supports release velocity, although defined in the Midi standard.
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby gerrit » Wed May 02, 2012 8:14 am

HMaier wrote:Unfortunately I don't know any keyboard, which supports release velocity, although defined in the Midi standard.

It is not keyboard that has to support this, but the midi encoder. For example: Fatar keyboards usually have two contacts for each key, so they are suitable for velocity sensitive encoders. It is then up to the encoder to scan both contacts instead of one only, and to do this for both the attack and the release instead of for the attack only. Indeed, many encoders only support velocity for the attack, not for the release. For the release they send a fixed velocity value.

However, the special Fatar encoders from Midi Boutique (http://www.midiboutique.com/products/pr ... d_id=12700) do support velocity for both the attack and the release. I know of several HW users who use these encoders, so their keyboards do indeed support release velocity. I think this group is growing rapidly.
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby florianf » Mon May 07, 2012 9:04 am

Are there already some samplesets with support for release velocity?
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby OAM » Mon May 07, 2012 12:19 pm

OAM has a native velocity version for the small F.C. Schnitger organ of Duurswoude
http://www.organartmedia.com/en/fcschnitger.html

For others you have to check the sample set producers sites.
I think, SP has such instruments too (native, simulated?)

Hope, that helps

EDIT:
Oops, sorry. Just saw, that you asked for release velocity!
The Duurswoude organ only has attack velocity.
I don't think, there are already sets with release velocity on the market.
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby o2tosin » Mon May 07, 2012 5:26 pm

Prof , the CMK3 keyboards which are very common transmit both note on and note off velocity. :idea:
I personally love the touch of the CMK3... Fatar make very good keyboards.
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby OAM » Tue May 08, 2012 2:33 am

Thanks for the info, I really didn't know, that release velocity is already supported by some keyboards (controllers).
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Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby OAM » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:52 am

Hello all,

good news, the sample set production is running and the sets will be shipped the next days.
All customers will be notified about shipping.

Don't forget: The introductory period with reduced prices ends on June, 30, 2012

If you haven't done yet:
Have a look at the Concert Hall site, there are a lot of new live performances with the Arlesheim organ set
http://www.contrebombarde.com/concerthall/home/browse
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Re: Silbermann Arlesheim work in progress

Postby micdev » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:49 am

Dear all,

I had the chance to play the Arlesheim sample set for more than two weeks and must say that I truly love it. The first demos I heard on Contrebombarde looked promising and I wasn't disappointed when I finally listen to it "live".

I built a little playlist on Contrebombarde so you can have a concert on the Arlesheim.

Enjoy!
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