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Rotterdam or Esztergom?

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Re: Rotterdam or Esztergom?

Postby Eric Sagmuller » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:31 pm

Yes I have planned to get the Rotterdam for some time now. I just have the demo set, but even with that you can do alot. The Poblet would be a strong contender if it had surround. Seems a shame it's not in the works, or at least we don't know if it is. It seems last several sets have the surround, and or vario perspective. With the Poblet so highly spoken of, I'd think it would be strongly considered.

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Re: Rotterdam or Esztergom?

Postby jharmon » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:51 pm

I would not base a decision on the availabilty of surround. I prefer surround and load it when available, but frankly few members have the memory resources to permit loading most of the new sample sets in surround at anything above 16 bit (not recommended by Jiri and others). I recently loaded my non surround wet sets using my rear speakers as a"mix'. The effect, when adjusted, can be close to surround without the memory problems. I have maxed out my Mac pro memory and either must move to a very expensive new computer or utilize the mix down concept. What are others doing?
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Re: Rotterdam or Esztergom?

Postby 1961TC4ME » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:43 pm

I have used the rear speakers as an additional mix on my non surround sets for a long time and as jharmon points out, properly mixed in with the front speakers is very close to what you get out of an actual surround set. I've always been of the belief that rear speakers be they surround signal or not adds much dimension to the overall sound, even if the set is dry (yes, you read that right, dry). No matter what I'd never be satisfied with just front speakers.

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Re: Rotterdam or Esztergom?

Postby Eric Sagmuller » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:54 am

I use to do this with my Bovenkerk set, adding a bit of extra reverb from a DSP. It did work quite well.

To me however a true surround signal sounds better. It is not a duplicate of the front, at least I can hear that difference.

I have no problem with RAM limitations. I built a new computer last year and have 96 GB.

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Re: Rotterdam or Esztergom?

Postby scottherbert » Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:12 pm

I thank you all for your great opinions.

In my simplicity, I had forgotten one of the greatest benefits of Hauptwerk! That is the ability to choose an instrument appropriate to the music being played, rather than having to choose an instrument able to do everything. Since I have a good selection of baroque instruments thanks to my friend Augustine, and I have the Smecno from Sonus Paradisi which excels at renaissance, I believe I will concentrate on getting the Caen.

I know many of you think the Poblet is "the cats pajamas", but, to me, it is excellent for baroque, not romantic. Even the Rotterdam doesn't do it as well as the Caen. And, as pointed out, with Jakes extension it is even more so.

Again, thanks to everyone for their input! :D

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Re: Rotterdam or Esztergom?

Postby ludu » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:53 pm

That’s an excellent choice!
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Re: Rotterdam or Esztergom?

Postby murph » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:05 pm

ludu wrote:That’s an excellent choice!

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Re: Rotterdam or Esztergom?

Postby Andrew Grahame » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:32 pm

For the French symphonic/romantic repertoire you'll find Caen ticks all the boxes - including surround. My suggestion of Poblet was in relation to it being a versatile instrument in an extremely generous acoustic and less expensive that the others on your short list, though clearly it leans heavily towards the baroque and lacks a swell division. You'll find lots of colour to explore with Caen - you won't be in the least disappointed with it as long as you choose the right repertoire.

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