Clavichord samples restricted to mono 16-bit [SOLVED]

On loading the Sonus Paradisi Klavichord the piano samples can be loaded correctly at 24-bit stereo but the mf and f samples are restricted to mono and 16-bit (or lower). I wondered if anyone else sees this behavior either on first load or via the load organ with adjustments option? All the samples look to be 24-bit stereo in the folders so this is a bit of a puzzle.

I should add that I'm on v. 4.2.1 (basic edition).

Chris

Can anyone confirm the mono 16-bit for mf and f samples on loading? Only yesterday I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10 with a fresh install and I see the same behavior...

Doubt the OS has anything to do with it. Have you checked with Sonus Paradisi? If so what their response?

Rgds,
Ed

I agree OS has nothing to do with it -- I'm simply showing that a fresh install produced the same results and thereby increased the likelihood that I'm not the only one experiencing this. The issue is that I can't tell sound-wise whether the mono 16-bit is actually happening given that Hauptwerk still pans mono into the stereo field?

The first thing I did was reach out to Jiri but I think he was/is traveling for a couple of weeks so posted here in the meantime. I'm surprised nobody has at least confirmed or denied this situation but I guess the clavichord is somewhat of a niche download. I was planning on using the instrument for an upcoming recording so the 16-bit/24-bit mono/stereo matters in the sense I want the best possible sound quality...

The demo recording appears to be in stereo, maybe? Not sure.

I saw a note about the sample set was created for HW v2 and no guarantees were made for any other (version).

Somewhere in my archives I no doubt have a copy of v2 because I started with v1.0 from Crumhorn Labs. Doubt if that would be useful.

Rgds,
Ed

Thanks. I have reached out to Jiri again to see if he can shed any light on this. If this is a HW v.4 compatibility issue then I can't blame him given he makes clear on his website that it was indeed made for v.2 with no guarantees for later versions. It's such a good instrument (along with his two exceptional harpsichords) that it would be a real shame if it isn't loading as he originally intended.

I downloaded this sample set a long time ago, when it was shareware. I just found and reinstall it. It works perfectly with Hauptwerk 4.2.1 and a velocity sensitive keyboard (which allows you to make nuances). Although the samples are stereo 24-bit (package 357) the sample set can only be opened in 16-bit mono.

Although the samples are stereo 24-bit (package 357) the sample set can only be opened in 16-bit mono.(

Then all we have to do is modify (or re-write) the Definition File, to make optimal use of the Samples provided!

Either in Hauptwerk, or in another language such as Sforzando by Plogue.

Issue in this instrument is that there is 1 stop. But there are 3 attack samples and 9 release samples pro key: piano, mf and f.
Based on the velocity (hard or soft attack) and the length of that 1 of the 3 attack samples/9 release samples are played.
Also see http://www.sonusparadisi.cz/en/organs/h ... model.html and then tab features.

In the _General part of the ODF the tag <AudioOut_OptimalFormat_SampleRateCode> is set to 3. That is 48 kHz.

In the ODF part Pipe_SoundEngineLayer there is 1 stop defined (for the stop 'piano') and all "pipes" are defined stereo and 24 bits. These samples can be loaded in 24 bits/stereo format. The other 2 stops (mf and f) cannot be defined here because in that case they are seen as 2 other stops, not related to the stop 'piano'. So, they also cannot be defined as 24 bits/stereo.
All 3 attack/9 release samples have pro key a unique PipeID and all together the same LayerID and RankID (piano). So they are related to each other and operate as 1 stop.

In my opinion HW must have the knowledge that the other 2 attack/6 release samples have the same definitions as the piano-stop, but doesn't. I think that if it is not defined, the defaults are 16bit/mono.

I don't see a solution at this moment. Maybe another person ........

This is great detective work! Here's hoping that a solution can be found either through a change in the instrument definitions or via a minor update in a future Hauptwerk version. For now, I think I'll have to record the MIDI rather than the audio and hope that in the near future I will be able render using the full 24/stereo samples...

I just heard back from Jiri (who heard back from Hauptwerk devs!) that the instrument is sounding as it should and we should ignore the mono/16-bit information. Apparently the clavichord p samples at 24-bit stereo are the basis for the whole instrument. All is well! Thanks to all who responded and thanks to Jiri for finally solving this mystery.