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Mystery organ quiz

Postby adri » Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:52 pm

OK, this is a quiz; perhaps a very difficult one to answer.

Answer:
1. Which or how many stops.
2. Which temperament.
3. Which sample set.
4. Whose music (fragment).

4/4 : you're awesome
3/4: impressive
2/4 : very good
1/4: not bad
0/4: what? :)

http://www.contrebombarde.com/concerthall/music/401

Sorry, playing is not terrific; late at night, very tired. But still felt it would be nice to surprise you.
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Postby adri » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:38 am

Nobody yet?
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Postby Stefanussen » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:29 am

I'm afraid I'm not quite good enough to be able to listen to an organ piece and tell you exactly which stops are playing. Perhaps a little hint on your organ would help - is it one of the organs with which you've posted music previously to the Concert Hall?
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Postby imcg110 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:10 am

OK, here goes -

1. Very few
2. unequal
3. A baroque one
4. Yours (well....I presume you did pay for it)

That's as close as I can get. Sounds nice though
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Postby adri » Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:16 pm

OK here come some clues:

1. a 16' and 8' stop
2. very mean tuning (it will bite you if you play the wrong notes)
3. organ has been rebuilt many times and I tinkered with the voicing
4. last name starts with S
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Mystery organ

Postby fdewitt » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:12 pm

Smecno, Czech Republic.
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Re: Mystery organ

Postby adri » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:07 pm

fdewitt wrote:Smecno, Czech Republic.


Sorry, no.
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Postby pwhodges » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:24 pm

All I can say about the organ is that it's not one I've got - but as I've no organs with a similar manual 16', that doesn't say much!

Meantone tuning - the question is 1/4 or 1/5 comma; my feeling is 1/5 comma, as that final glow of purity isn't quite there.

With or without your clue, I was going for Sweelinck as composer, though I don't know the piece.

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Postby adri » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:19 pm

pwhodges wrote:All I can say about the organ is that it's not one I've got - but as I've no organs with a similar manual 16', that doesn't say much!

Meantone tuning - the question is 1/4 or 1/5 comma; my feeling is 1/5 comma, as that final glow of purity isn't quite there.

With or without your clue, I was going for Sweelinck as composer, though I don't know the piece.

Paul


Paul, wow you were pretty close !!!

OK, here comes the solution:

The organ is the Forcalquier set I have on a 30-day trial period.
Although I am toning down this otherwise overly bright and loud instrument as much as is possible with the voicing controls, I have done very little in this case:

Gamba at +4
Bourdon 16 not adjusted

The stops used are Bourdon 16' and Gamba 8'; it gives the impression of a narrowly scaled vocal sounding Principal 16', as I heard once on a CD with the old organ of Stavanger.

The music is indeed JP Sweelicnk, and the piece is called Prealudium ex F, No. 27 in the VNM Edition, ed. by Gustav Leonhardt, et. al.
I only played the first 40 some bars.

The tuning is meantone, not sure about the comma, I think it was 1/5.

Did you all like the warm sound? Since this organ is of course not a 16th-17th instrument it's a little more muddy than what I would prefer, but still it's not too bad.
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Postby davidgarner16 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:40 am

Vollenhove Bosch-Schnitger

You are soloing out the melody on the 4' principal on the positive, played an octave lower

accompaniment 8 and 4 flutes

16 +8 in pedal

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Postby imcg110 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:37 am

At least I was right in thinking Sweelinck (privately!!) . I do like the Forcalquier organ at lot. Maybe not a pure breed organ, but very usable as my slightly odd selection of music at contrbombarde.com will attest!! It certainly is great fun to play - it is one of those sets that "feels good" under the fingers. My audio set up tends to make thinks a bit bright, and this organ screamed out at first. I used the voicing screen to reduce the brightness (not amplitude) of much of the upperwork, and parts of the positif and found I got much better coherence of the ensemble. I specifically left the tierce and Plein Jeu brighter than the rest not to loose all the original character. I have done nothing to even out the varied voicing across stops - it is there for a reason! Every organ should be voiced to the room. Now that I have done it for my room I am very happy with the end result. Despite the big acoustic, it is a very direct sound with the reverb tails relatively quiet when compared to other big wet samples - a very nice contrast to have in the collection. It goes without saying that the quality of sampling is excellent. It is a real voyage of discovery - I discover different subtleties of sound every time I play it.

I think it is quite amazing that Jiri is prepared to offer this set to us with no physical limitations for trial - many, many thanks for this. Such trust is rarely seen these days!! (PS I have paid already!!)
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Re: Mystery organ quiz

Postby Anto800 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:01 am

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Re: Mystery organ quiz

Postby scottherbert » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:29 am

I am amazed at the answer for the organ!!! I own it, and love it, but the recording gave me the impression of a dry set, so I discounted it since the Forcalquier is wet. :D

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Re: Mystery organ quiz

Postby adri » Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:10 am

scottherbert wrote:I am amazed at the answer for the organ!!! I own it, and love it, but the recording gave me the impression of a dry set, so I discounted it since the Forcalquier is wet. :D

~S


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