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non powered speakers

PostFri Sep 17, 2010 2:47 pm

Hi:
I posted a reply to the topic on speakers, but not received a reply, so posting a separate question;
What types/brands of non powered speakers are others using? I have 5 Crown D75A amps and the Echofire audio 8 interface for the Mac Pro system. (The amps came from Ebay for very reasonable prices.)
Also have a pair of Klipsch corner horns we would like to use as well.
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Re: non powered speakers

PostFri Sep 17, 2010 3:14 pm

My suggestion:

1. Build/have built two "artificial" corners for the Klipsch speakers;
each wall to be at least four feet long from the back of the Klipsch,
see #2 photo in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6798&p=47658&hilit=+Klipschorns#p47658

I have been using ONLY these two horn loaded systems exclusively for
Hauptwerk organs in "simple" stereo for some time. Sound is
as good as any of the many other set-ups I have tried with all my
possible multi-channel audio experiments. You MUST have the walls
to support the lowest tones from the Klipschorns. They must be the
same height as the bass horn outout port from the back of the Klipsch.

Using your Echofire preamp in stereo only, the two stereo output channel ports,
allows the headphone port output with separate level control to be available.
If you use more ports of the Echofire, the headphone output is disabled.

Try it, you will like it. I took down the two Behringers from the console top;
they added nothing to the tone sound.
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Re: non powered speakers

PostSat Sep 18, 2010 7:41 am

After investing in the proper computer hardware, software, sample sets, and midi and Echo interfaces, I couldn't justify new speakers when I had 6 pairs in the garage. I have 2 Carver AL-III bipolar ribbon speakers which do the main work of Sw and GT Principles and Flutes. I then have a pair of Alesis studio monitor twos which combined with a Klipsch subwoofer give me the Pedal Foundations and Reeds. I have a pair of Bose 4.2 Series II that handle the Strings on one side and the Celestes on the other. I have 5 remaining channels with Boston Acoustics bookshelf speakers that handle GT and SW Upperwork, GT and Swell Reeds, and 1 for what I call the Big Honk. (Seperate channel for whatever BIG reed is in the set. This seems to give me a great distribution of sound. As my hearing is nowhere near what it was when I used to tune and voice, I don't seem to suffer the Intermod Distortion that others complain about. For a small practice area in my basement, 13 channels gives me very realistic reproduction. I have the Wet Skinner, the Salisbury, and the Paramount 320. All sound good using this arrangement. Since my speakers are not identical, I assigned the speakers to do the job they were designed for.

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Re: non powered speakers

PostSun Sep 19, 2010 5:44 pm

Jim Reid wrote:1. Build/have built two "artificial" corners for the Klipsch speakers;
each wall to be at least four feet long from the back of the Klipsch,
see #2 photo in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6798&p=47658&hilit=+Klipschorns#p47658

I have been using ONLY these two horn loaded systems exclusively for
Hauptwerk organs in "simple" stereo for some time. Sound is
as good as any of the many other set-ups I have tried with all my
possible multi-channel audio experiments.


Hi!

Over the weekend I was using modified "Dual Position Acousta" cabinets
http://www.lowthervoigtmuseum.org.uk/lo ... ousta.html
for PA purposes for the local church fete. These had been modified by their previous owner to have extensions of the horn in expanding horn form as artificial walls and for use against a wall rather than in corners, they worked very well indeed, so can imagine the importance of doing this to the Klipschs as well. As true top end hi-fi speakers are intended to reproduce with utmost accuracy and can in practice simulate a complete orchestra in terms of frequency spectrum and aural spread without worries about intermodulation distortion, whilst on my own instrument I appreciate the benefits of multi-channel reproduction (possibly merely a function of dynamic range), I'm not entirely sure that the arguments of multi-channel vs plain stereo, certainly in the domestic realm, aren't a matter of mere smoke and mirrors.

Best wishes

David P
http://www.organmatters.co.uk
David Pinnegar, B.Sc., A.R.C.S.

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