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Replacing my organ keyboards

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Matova

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Replacing my organ keyboards

PostWed Feb 15, 2023 2:23 am

Hi everyone, I I'm planning to replace the keyboards of my organ for three news fatar Fatar 61 TP-60LF could anyone tell me where I could find step by step instructions and explication how to do it ? what should I need more apart from keyboards ?

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Re: Replacing my organ keyboards

PostWed Feb 15, 2023 8:40 am

Firstly, what kind of organ do you have? Depending on your organ, it may actually be easier and faster for you to refelt your existing keyboards and clean the contacts. If you currently have fatar keyboards, it is easier and faster just to replace the contact strips and refelt them if they are giving you trouble. However, for all of these, we need to know what kind of organ you have to help you. There are no step by step guides to doing this as far as I know.
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Re: Replacing my organ keyboards

PostWed Feb 15, 2023 9:37 am

hi, thanks for your response. I have a three keyboards Hoffrichter console that is 15 years old , I don't know what keyboards are. For sure are too old to take advance to anything.
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Re: Replacing my organ keyboards

PostWed Feb 15, 2023 5:56 pm

If I recall correctly, Hoffrichter included wood core keyboards that may have been hand made with their consoles (but may have been MDF inside). Still, these are considered pretty good keyboards, and I would start by replacing the felt and cleaning the contacts, you'll probably be surprised by the result. If there are any springs, they may need to be replaced, but this is rare at 15 years old.

Fatar keyboards are inferior to anything wood core, and they don't mount the same way, so you're looking at fairly extensive woodworking modification of the key cheeks and support frames, and unless the new fatars come pre wired for Midi, you'll also have to do some rewiring if you want to replace them that way.
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Re: Replacing my organ keyboards

PostThu Feb 16, 2023 6:48 am

I am in a similar situation, but I am useless with anything that involves DIY.
I am looking to replace my old 3 manual plastic M-Audio keyboard stack with a wooden keyboard with a nice simulated mechanic action (would like a bit of "bite" to the keys).
I am quite taken with Schwindler keyboards from what they say on their website. Magnus organs seem to produce ones that are plastic/wood or metal/wood.
Does anyone have any other interesting recommendations? I am trying to avoid the more costly UHT route.
I am UK based.
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Re: Replacing my organ keyboards

PostSat Feb 25, 2023 7:07 am

I switched from three M Audio keyboards recently and compared Fatar, Schwindler and UHT. Actually, there is nothing that comes even close to UHT. They are expensive but worth every cent.
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Re: Replacing my organ keyboards

PostSat Feb 25, 2023 12:22 pm

I think those are your options. Fatar, Schwindler, UHT. There are other types sold used, but none that I know of that are still being made. You can also get a pipe organ builder to make you some keyboards, but they won't be cheaper than UHT! Classic Midi Works in Canada sell Fatars with wooden naturals. They also self mount in their plastic frames. I'd go with the Schwindlers from Pedamidikit. I think that's the best keyboard for the money. Fatars feel good new, but it's annoying having to replace the tracker bubble pads.
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Re: Replacing my organ keyboards

PostThu Mar 16, 2023 5:14 pm

larason2 wrote:I think those are your options. Fatar, Schwindler, UHT. There are other types sold used, but none that I know of that are still being made. You can also get a pipe organ builder to make you some keyboards, but they won't be cheaper than UHT! Classic Midi Works in Canada sell Fatars with wooden naturals. They also self mount in their plastic frames. I'd go with the Schwindlers from Pedamidikit. I think that's the best keyboard for the money. Fatars feel good new, but it's annoying having to replace the tracker bubble pads.


Thanks for you comments. After deliberation I have indeed gone and ordered Schwindlers, the wooden keys with Frontalino con chiocciolina (Front panel with snail carving) just look divine. I think you are right they are perhaps the best keyboards on the market for the money.
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Re: Replacing my organ keyboards

PostMon May 06, 2024 2:00 pm

Hi goldeneye,

I have with great interest read your post on replacing your current keyboards and I have a couple of questions that I hope you can answer.

I have been looking around for keyboards to replace my not weighted, Swedish made, plastic keyboards from the 1970.s.
They are fitted with contacts that now frequently give me problems.

I have written a software program for a scanner using a Arduino Due that can handle 4 keyboards, pedals, as well as expression pedals. And I have been using it for about 5 years and that part of my system works very well.

Hence, due to my present problems, and set up, I am looking for keyboards that are weigthed, with tracker sim. and a single simple contact reed type contact since it would be simple to connect to my present system. But I realize I may have to bypass my scanner if new keyboards cannot be purchased without a midi interface or with a simple switch for each key.

Now to my questions. I would be very interested to know how much you have paid for the Magnus/Schwindler keyboards, what has your experience been to install them and playing them?

Best regards
Bjørn

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