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Setting a Tutti piston

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StephenM

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Setting a Tutti piston

PostTue Mar 14, 2023 7:32 pm

I have 10 pistons on my console which I program to play combinations from soft to loud.
I link these 10 pistons to 10 pistons on a piston toolbar, named 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,Tutti.
For most samples I program these 10 combinations manually.
However some sample sets have native combinations on screen .... PP, P, MF, FF and Tutti.

eg. The Sonus Paradisi sample set for Chemnitz-Sauer has on screen pistons for FORTE and TUTTI.

My issue is that I cannot link these on screen pistons with my own.
I can switich ON the on screen Tutti piston with my own Tutti piston, but it stays ON which I press pistons 1,2,3 etc.

To repeat, what I want to do is switch my 10 console pistons to play from soft to loud, with my last piston switching the on screen TUTTI.

What should I be doing?
Thx
Stephen
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Re: Setting a Tutti piston

PostTue Mar 14, 2023 8:56 pm

The sampleset producer decides which of their native controls can be affected by Hauptwerk's registration tools (generals, stepper frames, scoped, reversibles,...). I don't have that particular sampleset, but have fought with various native controls like Anches ventils that do or do not respond to Hauptwerk reversibles, for example, differently across samplesets.

One trick is to override your general 10 (or stepper frame xx9 or x09), which I assume you've autodetected for all organs, by autodetecting the same physical piston to the Tutti button on this particular organ. Same for the PP, P, MF, and FF. That won't mess up the generals (or stepper frames) for other organs. There's a relevant General setting in HW 7 to override global MIDI associations locally per organ (rather than trigger both the general and the Tutti), but I can't remember the name of that right now.

Got it: Check the option "Organ MIDI assignments override global" in General settings | General preferences | Main 1.
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Re: Setting a Tutti piston

PostWed Mar 15, 2023 5:05 am

Hello Stephen,

Yes -- to confirm Mark's reply, the logic/behaviour for those particular native switches/pistons (Forte, Tutti, etc.) will be 'wired' within the sample set itself, and is presumably not configured for Hauptwerk's master combination system to affect them (e.g. to turn them off when you subsequently trigger a master stepper/combination piston). That being the case, there's probably no reliable way you could get Hauptwerk's master combinations (stepper, generals, etc.) to switch them off, or for the organ's other native combinations to cause them to turn off unless the sample set producer has implemented logic to do that.

An option might be simply not to use those native combinations at all, and to use Hauptwerk's master combinations (e.g. generals or stepper) instead, capturing the same registrations to them if desired.
Best regards, Martin.
Hauptwerk software designer/developer, Milan Digital Audio.
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Re: Setting a Tutti piston

PostThu Mar 16, 2023 7:19 pm

Yesterday Sonus Paradisi released Este.
At the moment I am playing the DEMO.
This sample set allows exactly what I want.
I can set my pistons to what ever combinations I want (soft to loud) and set the FORTE GENERALE as my last piston (Tutti).
All the pistons toggle in sync.

Very simple.
Stephen

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