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Sequencer

PostMon May 15, 2023 3:07 am

Hello everybody,

A friend organist ask me for a wish in term of registration. He would like use the HW sequencer but as the following method : Starting from position 0, he would like to manually set a registration, then using the sequencer he would like to progress from position 1 to 10 for example step by step. But returning to position 0 with the sequencer, he would like to recover his previous manually set registration. In his mind position 0 would be not record as a registration memory but is a free manually registration.

Is it possible with the HW registration management ?

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Bernard
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Re: Sequencer

PostMon May 15, 2023 4:40 am

Hello Bernard,

I'm not certain that I'm clear exactly what you mean, but:

- You could certainly capture/store any registrations to frames 000, 001, ..., 010.

- All stepper frames have general scope, i.e. store/recall the states of all stops.

- Frame 000 behaves just like any other stepper frame.

- Once a registration has been captured to any given frame that frame will always recall that same (constant) captured registration until you specifically capture a different registration to it.

- Triggering a frame will always recall its registration unless the setter is on, in which case the current states of all stops will be captured to it, replacing whatever was captured to it previously. I.e. the state of the setter always determines whether any given frame will capture or recall when triggered.

- There is a general preference "Cancel setter (capture mode) automatically whenever capturing to a combination?", which is ticked by default, but if you un-tick it then the setter will stay on until you specifically turn it off.

- The 'Copy reg' and 'Paste reg' pistons/buttons (e.g. on the Registration large control panel) can be used to store and recall the current hand registration temporarily quickly and easily. E.g. with his hand registration set your friend could press 'Copy reg', then recall some stepper frames as desired (e.g. 0001 to 010) then press 'Paste reg' to get his original hand registration back. Hence if he wanted to go back to frame 000 but recall his hand registration (which he'd copied with 'Copy reg' before recalling any stepper frames) he could press '000' then 'Paste reg' (in that order).

- Alternatively, the 'Hand reg' piston/button (e.g. also on the Registration large control panel) will automatically recall the last hand registration before any stepper frame (or other combination) was recalled. However, since frame 000 is itself a normal frame, triggering frame 000 would recall whatever is stored to frame 000, not the last hand registration. Hence if he started from a general-cancelled state (the default state, with the 'Hand reg' button lit, indicating that he is in hand registration mode), set his hand registration, then triggered some stepper frames as desired (e.g. 0001 to 010), to go back to frame 000 but recall his hand registration he could press '000', then 'Hand reg' (in that order).
Best regards, Martin.
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Re: Sequencer

PostMon May 15, 2023 5:29 am

P.S. Maybe your friend could:

- Use stepper frames 000 to 009 for his stored registrations (instead of 001 to 010).

- Simply use the 'Hand reg' piston/button for what he had been imagining using frame 000 for (instead of actually trying to use frame 000 for that purpose).

That would be using Hauptwerk's stepper and 'Hand reg' in the way that they were intended to be used.
Best regards, Martin.
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Re: Sequencer

PostMon May 15, 2023 10:18 am

I've wished for sequences like [ stepper + 1, optional random walk through frames returning to the first frame again, stepper - 1 ] to return to the registration before the stepper was first invoked since cancel. (This probably isn't exactly what the original poster wants.)

Hand Reg doesn't work for that (for me) because I almost always register using combination pistons, not stops, so Hand Reg isn't enabled.

I realize "return to pre-stepper registration upon stepper - 1 from first frame triggered since cancel" is hard to define consistently, unless it only applies to sequences that start and end with frame 000. If I trigger frame 003 directly as my first stepper operation since cancel, then hit stepper - 1 next, do I want frame 002 or to return to my pre-stepper registration? Even I don't know. That's why I never made a suggestion about it.

Certainly I can save the pre-stepper registration to a general, but stepper - 1 is usually an easier thing to press without taking a hand off the keys.
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Re: Sequencer

PostMon May 15, 2023 12:00 pm

Hello Mark,

Especially given that there's so much variability/uncertainty about where you'd want to return to, I'd suggest using 'Copy reg' and 'Paste reg', or if (aside from the stepper) you exclusively use general combinations to register, just press the relevant general again.

I've logged as an enhancement request that you might find it useful to have an additional function similar to Hauptwerk's existing 'Hand reg', but which only captures when going from a non-stepper registration to a stepper registration (regardless of whether the pre-stepper was a hand registration or some other non-stepper combination piston, such as a general piston). I.e. it would undo all/any combination changes that occurred as a result of triggering stepper frames, back to the last registration that was effected by any means other than a stepper frame.
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Re: Sequencer

PostMon May 15, 2023 2:27 pm

Thanks, Martin. I really was trying to say it's an idea that isn't worth doing, at least not any way I've read about so far. Maybe I'll just make a general toe stud to save whatever I want to return to at the moment.
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Re: Sequencer

PostMon May 15, 2023 2:30 pm

Thanks, Mark.
Best regards, Martin.
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