Your pedal technique must be very good!
St Mary, Redcliffe
Re: St Mary, Redcliffe
I've posted previously about the bit depth, etc., that I've been able to load of the new St Mary Redcliffe into my 64 GB of RAM on a Windows 11 pc: http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.ph ... afb09a9dda
I did this experimenting while using a demo licence.
As others have eloquently described, the sound from this sample set is excellent. Once I'd played the organ with the demo licence, the decision to purchase was clear.
Quite apart from the sound, two features I particularly like are the four presets for suggested (not mandatory) mixing of the perspectives. I listen only in stereo (headphones of near field monitors) but it's still definitely good to have access to different perspective positions even in the absence of surround sound.
Another feature I personally appreciate is the ability to adjust the level of tuning. When the scale is set to zero, one hears the tuning as it was on the days when the different divisions were recorded. When the scale is set to 10, the sample set is properly in tune, manually tuned by the producer in post processing.
I know that many think that a virtual organ in perfect tune sounds artificial. However, I belong to the school that likes an organ to be as close to properly tuned as possible. In my much younger years, I worked several summers for a local pipe organ builder; part of the work included touring all the organs in our vicinity for regular tunings. I spent many hours sitting at keyboards holding down notes while listening as the pipes were brought into tune. This was always done when a recital was going to be held on one of the large four manual organs in our vicinity. So if I have a choice when I'm playing my organ, it will be in tune.
I did this experimenting while using a demo licence.
As others have eloquently described, the sound from this sample set is excellent. Once I'd played the organ with the demo licence, the decision to purchase was clear.
Quite apart from the sound, two features I particularly like are the four presets for suggested (not mandatory) mixing of the perspectives. I listen only in stereo (headphones of near field monitors) but it's still definitely good to have access to different perspective positions even in the absence of surround sound.
Another feature I personally appreciate is the ability to adjust the level of tuning. When the scale is set to zero, one hears the tuning as it was on the days when the different divisions were recorded. When the scale is set to 10, the sample set is properly in tune, manually tuned by the producer in post processing.
I know that many think that a virtual organ in perfect tune sounds artificial. However, I belong to the school that likes an organ to be as close to properly tuned as possible. In my much younger years, I worked several summers for a local pipe organ builder; part of the work included touring all the organs in our vicinity for regular tunings. I spent many hours sitting at keyboards holding down notes while listening as the pipes were brought into tune. This was always done when a recital was going to be held on one of the large four manual organs in our vicinity. So if I have a choice when I'm playing my organ, it will be in tune.
Bruce
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How much SSD space is required for a full install?
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53 GB in SamplesetsAndComponents, and 55 GB in InternalWorkingFiles.
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Re: St Mary, Redcliffe
Many thanks for your review Bruce!Tompion wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 4:03 pm I've posted previously about the bit depth, etc., that I've been able to load of the new St Mary Redcliffe into my 64 GB of RAM on a Windows 11 pc: http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.ph ... afb09a9dda
I did this experimenting while using a demo licence.
As others have eloquently described, the sound from this sample set is excellent. Once I'd played the organ with the demo licence, the decision to purchase was clear.
Quite apart from the sound, two features I particularly like are the four presets for suggested (not mandatory) mixing of the perspectives. I listen only in stereo (headphones of near field monitors) but it's still definitely good to have access to different perspective positions even in the absence of surround sound.
Another feature I personally appreciate is the ability to adjust the level of tuning. When the scale is set to zero, one hears the tuning as it was on the days when the different divisions were recorded. When the scale is set to 10, the sample set is properly in tune, manually tuned by the producer in post processing.
I know that many think that a virtual organ in perfect tune sounds artificial. However, I belong to the school that likes an organ to be as close to properly tuned as possible. In my much younger years, I worked several summers for a local pipe organ builder; part of the work included touring all the organs in our vicinity for regular tunings. I spent many hours sitting at keyboards holding down notes while listening as the pipes were brought into tune. This was always done when a recital was going to be held on one of the large four manual organs in our vicinity. So if I have a choice when I'm playing my organ, it will be in tune.
I love that you find the sound really clear, and ability to use the Presets to adjust the sound perspective.
I’m also glad that you’ve managed an almost full load in very good quality.
The sliders are integral to the character of the organ so I’m glad you’ve got those loaded. How about the ambience?
Honestly guys - I’ve been overwhelmed by the feedback on this sample set… far and beyond what I could’ve imagined.
I knew this was something special from day 1, but I was worried other people wouldn’t be as enthusiastic about it as me. Luckily that appears not to be the case
Thank you all.
I like organs. I like technology. This is why I like Hauptwerk.
- Richard McVeigh
- Richard McVeigh
Re: St Mary, Redcliffe
Hi Richard,
I have two questions about the actual SMR organ but they're connected to the HW organ.
I've been puzzled about how and why an electro pneumatic organ would have rank sliders. My only experience of windchest sliders has been on tracker organs. I remember a good few decades ago being one of several workers releathering a very large number of individual leather pallet pouches for each pipe on a four manual Hill, Norman & Beard. But investigation on the internet has revealed that, since that time, rank sliders can be incorporated into electro pneumatic windchests, eliminating the need for individual leather pallets under each pipe.
I've seen on the Harrison and Harrison website that new slider soundboards were installed in 2010. Are these the sliders I've referred to, or something else?
My second question is much simpler. Does the close perspective give a good impression of what the organ sounds like when you're seated at the console? (I'm not sure where the console is physically located.)
I have two questions about the actual SMR organ but they're connected to the HW organ.
I've been puzzled about how and why an electro pneumatic organ would have rank sliders. My only experience of windchest sliders has been on tracker organs. I remember a good few decades ago being one of several workers releathering a very large number of individual leather pallet pouches for each pipe on a four manual Hill, Norman & Beard. But investigation on the internet has revealed that, since that time, rank sliders can be incorporated into electro pneumatic windchests, eliminating the need for individual leather pallets under each pipe.
I've seen on the Harrison and Harrison website that new slider soundboards were installed in 2010. Are these the sliders I've referred to, or something else?
My second question is much simpler. Does the close perspective give a good impression of what the organ sounds like when you're seated at the console? (I'm not sure where the console is physically located.)
Bruce
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Electropneumatic motors can operate palettes and sliders on traditional chests.
You're thinking of pitman chests which have one motor per pipe rather than per note - more common in the US than in Europe, I think. Ernest Skinner claimed to have invented them (though he never claimed a patent), but Charles Brindley had used a similar design in the UK earlier.
Paul
You're thinking of pitman chests which have one motor per pipe rather than per note - more common in the US than in Europe, I think. Ernest Skinner claimed to have invented them (though he never claimed a patent), but Charles Brindley had used a similar design in the UK earlier.
Paul