Load button and/or control panel

[mnailor]

Martin,

Would it be possible to add a "Load" item in the top row that has "Touch menu" and "User guide"? I mean the white bar above where control panels dock, below the Windows top bar, right click on this bar shows the list of all control panels. Most of the space isn't doing anything.

And a control panel containing only the Load button, similar to the single Install button control panel?

The purpose is to load the next organ without bringing up the touch menu, to use full screen more easily. The Load button would bring up the usual list of organs dialog. The existing control panel Misc organ... is wide enough to need its own row in the console window, which takes away space from the organ's stop display.

Thank you.

[mdyde]

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the suggestions.

Would it be possible to add a "Load" item in the top row that has "Touch menu" and "User guide"? I mean the white bar above where control panels dock, below the Windows top bar, right click on this bar shows the list of all control panels. Most of the space isn't doing anything.

I think you're referring to the traditional main menu bar. We actually intentionally removed almost everything from that for v9+, with the exception of a minimal number of items that remain to ensure that people could find the touch menu easily and learn how to use it (via the user guide). We specifically wanted to get away from having functions on the main menu bar, to avoid duplication with the touch menu.

On the touch menu's "View | General" tab, provided that the "Hide main menu bar in full-screen mode" option is turned on (as it is by default) then when Hauptwerk is full-screen mode (e.g. by switching on the "Full-screen" option on that same tab) the traditional main menu bar is hidden entirely (as is the title bar), which is how we intended Hauptwerk v9+ normally to used, so that as much screen space is available for the virtual console as possible. I'd recommend using it that way, i.e. so that the main window's title bar and main menu bar are hidden, thus giving you more screen space.

And a control panel containing only the Load button, similar to the single Install button control panel?

The purpose is to load the next organ without bringing up the touch menu, to use full screen more easily. The Load button would bring up the usual list of organs dialog. The existing control panel Misc organ... is wide enough to need its own row in the console window, which takes away space from the organ's stop display.

The general aim for v9 has been to try to keep the list of control panels manageable, avoiding too much duplication between them, so that people can find and understand things more easily.

The "Misc: organ/combination set/temperament load/assign" is the main intended control panel intended for loading organs, although as you mention it's wide enough that it may need its own row. If we were to duplicate some of that to a new control panel with a narrower format, I think I would prefer the new control panel to allow loading organs, combination sets, and temperaments (rather than solely organs), so that we don't get back into having more/separate control panels for those other functions too. For example, I could log an enhancement request for a new control panel with the following subset of the "Misc: organ/combination set/temperament load/assign" control panel's functions: the "Type" button, the indicator for the currently selected type ("Organ", "Combs", or "Temp"), and the "Load ..." button. That way it would allow people to load combinations and temperaments, as well as organs. Would that fit on your monitor? What horizontal resolution is your monitor in pixels?

[mnailor]

My monitor is 1920 wide. The one row of control panels I use is already full: Set Polyphony, Set Audio Trim and Volume, RAM meter, and Audio/Polyphony/CPU meters. An additional control panel would need to fit while the console is minimized, so I don't have the whole width to work with.

Maximizing the console window doesn't remove the menu bar or Windows top bar, but I guess setting it to full screen would. I have to maximize and minimize it pretty often most days.

Thanks.

[mdyde]

Maximizing the console window doesn't remove the menu bar or Windows top bar, but I guess setting it to full screen would.

Correct.

Is there a specific reason that you don't want to use full-screen mode? It would save you ample vertical space to allow an additional row of control panels to be docked.

Also, how do you open the touch menu, given that you aren't using either of the control panels for showing/hiding it? E.g. do you use a piston toolbar button for the purpose? Or a MIDI piston?

The way I would recommend using v9, and how it was designed primarily to be used, is to:

- Keep Hauptwerk in full-screen mode, with the "Hide main menu bar in full-screen mode" option turned on.

- Ensure a button is docked for showing/hiding the touch menu (either use one of the two control panels for the purpose, or a piston toolbar), or assign a MIDI piston to show/hide the touch menu.

- Either dock the touch menu in one of the console windows (e.g. the main window), or use it maximised on a dedicated monitor of its own (e.g. a tablet) if available.

- Either keep the "Misc: organ/combination set/temperament load/assign" control panel docked in one of the console windows, or use the touch menu instead. (As above, if in full-screen mode you would have ample space for an extra row of control panels for it, or if using the touch menu with an on-screen show/hide button docked, or a MIDI piston assigned to it, then it would only take one extra press/click to reach the touch menu.)

That's also how Hauptwerk v9 is configure by default.

[mnailor]

I pull up file manager, task manager, MOTU web control, and RME TotalMix FX at times. Sometimes I need to see the icons on the left side of the screen or have enough of a second window visible to switch to it. The keyboard is only accessible by moving pretty far from playing position, so using that to switch windows is disruptive, but the trackpad is easy to reach.

I open and close the touch menu tabs from the undocked touch menu tab control panel that I have permanently positioned across the menu bar and the Windows top bar. I don't use any piston toolbars.

I'll get on with what I've been doing. Please delete the suggestion.

Thanks.

[mdyde]

Thanks, Mark.

Perhaps you could consider normally using Hauptwerk in full-screen mode, and then take it out of full-screen mode (e.g. via the touch menu's "View | General" tab, or by keeping the "View: console window size" control panel (which has a button for toggling full-screen mode on it) docked. Then whenever you wanted to get to other applications you could easily take it out of full-screen mode temporarily (with its windows sized/positioned appropriately to allow you to get to them easily, rather than being maximised).

[mnailor]

I'm trying leaving the touch menu docked in the main console window when on, but not on unless needed. With the console usually at my normal size (about 80% of screen width) and maximizing as needed, this is working so far, better than having the touch menu in its own window.

The second and third display tablets using Spacedesk weren't stable, so I went back to the LP Mini instead. Just one monitor.

[mdyde]

Thanks, Mark. Excellent.