Restore all settings for a single organ sample set

[kaspencer]

Greetings all!

For some reason, Hauptwerk (v8) started to re-install an existing organ sample set that was already installed and configured - I played that same organ this morning and it was fine. That has never happened to me before. I noticed within seconds, but the damage was done, and it seems that my settings have been lost, as there seemed to be no way of stopping the re-installation and preserving the settings.
I have a recent backup but it is of all sample sets, and there does not appear to be any obvious way of restoring the settings of an existing installed and configured organ from a full backup.
I found a post in which it was mentioned that a request had been tabled in 2003 for this features to be added to the restore function but I don't think it ever appeared as in the version 8 restore from a backup routing this option does not seem to be available.

SO: is there a method of restoring the settings of just one sample set - in situ in the same Alternative Configuration?

In hope ( ! ),

Kenneth

[mnailor]

Do you mean HW spontaneously started running unrar.exe on an organ's installation RAR file? Weird, but reinstalling shouldn't have deleted any organ settings, should it? Reinstall never does that for me, even if I cancel it.

I don't know of anything you can do but start configuring the organ again or accept restoring all settings from backup. You could export/import combinations if the organ is also in another Alt or Main config.

[mdyde]

Hello Kenneth,

For some reason, Hauptwerk (v8) started to re-install an existing organ sample set that was already installed and configured - I played that same organ this morning and it was fine. That has never happened to me before. I noticed within seconds, but the damage was done, and it seems that my settings have been lost, as there seemed to be no way of stopping the re-installation and preserving the settings.

[Aside from St. Anne's, after running the Hauptwerk installer] Hauptwerk will never actually install or re-install any sample set automatically -- that would only happen if you used "File | Install ...".

By 're-install' do you mean that when you tried to load that organ the cache file started to re-generate automatically? And/or that when you tried to load that organ you were shown the rank options screen automatically (as happens when you load an organ for the first time after installing it)?

If so, and if your settings for that sample set are definitely gone, then almost certainly the settings file for that organ had become corrupted on the drive for some reason (e.g. due to the computer not having shut down cleanly when that organ was last used). In the case of an organ's setting's file being lost, or restored automatically from a last-known-good backup due to corruption, the log ("Help | View activity log", or a diagnostic file, which will always contain the log) would have noted it.

I have a recent backup but it is of all sample sets, and there does not appear to be any obvious way of restoring the settings of an existing installed and configured organ from a full backup.
I found a post in which it was mentioned that a request had been tabled in 2003 for this features to be added to the restore function but I don't think it ever appeared as in the version 8 restore from a backup routing this option does not seem to be available.

SO: is there a method of restoring the settings of just one sample set - in situ in the same Alternative Configuration?

Hauptwerk doesn't yet have a native means for restoring the settings for just a single organ (although it's still logged as an enhancement request), but, unofficially (for the technically-inclined, and at your own risk), you could do it as follows in v8:

- Look in the activity log to find the OrganID of the sample set in question. (The OrganID is logged whenever an organ has finished loading.)

- Make a new backup for good measure ("File | Backup ...").

- Use "Help | View/extract contents of a backup or diagnostic file" to extract your previous backup (the one made when that organ was definitely working properly) to a temporary location. Once extracted, a Windows Explorer window will then open in the extracted contents automatically.

- Within the extracted "HauptwerkUserData\Config0-OrganSettings" sub-directory (or that for whichever of the other configuration numbers you prefer), copy the "OrganIDNNNNNNConfig.OrganConfig_Hauptwerk_xml" file, where NNNNNN is the appropriate OrganID.

- Exit Hauptwerk.

- Paste that copied the file into the equivalent directory with the main Hauptwerk directory structure, replacing any file of the same name that's already there. E.g. with default installation locations, and assuming the main configuration, you would paste it into: "<your-OS-user-home-directory>\Hauptwerk\HauptwerkUserData\Config0-OrganSettings" .

- Re-launch Hauptwerk, and load that organ using "Organ | Load organ, adjusting rank audio memory options". If the settings file has been restored properly, you should find that your rank options are set as they were when you made the backup. OK the screen, which will ensure that the cache gets re-generated appropriately for the rank options from the file you restored.

[kaspencer]

Thanks for quick reply Martin.
I have a go at that shortly.
Best wishes
Ken

[mdyde]

Thanks, Ken. You're very welcome.

[kaspencer]

Thanks, Martin ...

I suppose I should clarify: it wasn't strictly a re-install that started, it was a re-cache, but I didn't start it: rather, I expected to open the instrument for playing - the sample set was installed and configured maybe a couple of years ago and had been functioning properly.
However, I was grateful for your remarks, Martin, because as you said, after re-opening that organ, all the configuration was present and correct. Since the episode the organ has behaved itself.

Best wsihes,

Ken

[kaspencer]

Do you mean HW spontaneously started running unrar.exe on an organ's installation RAR file? Weird, but reinstalling shouldn't have deleted any organ settings, should it? Reinstall never does that for me, even if I cancel it.

I don't know of anything you can do but start configuring the organ again or accept restoring all settings from backup. You could export/import combinations if the organ is also in another Alt or Main config.

Thanks for that, but, as mentioned in my reply to Martin, and sorry for the confusion - it wasn't a re-install, but rather an unexpected re-cache that happened. But no configuration data was lost.
Unfortunately, on my console, losing an organ configuration, had that happened, would be a significant loss, as the organ would have required some 50 stop switches, plus couplers, and their LEDs to be re-assigned to the stops, plus expression pedals to be set up, plus stop label texts to be recreated/assigned (on top of combinations, and audio + voicing). But as mentioned all the configuration data remained in place so all is well..

Kenneth

[mnailor]

Understood. I'm glad it wasn't a disaster. Thanks for explaining.

[mdyde]

Thanks, Ken. Glad to hear it's resolved now.

[kaspencer]

Thanks, Martin, believe me, I'm very pleased and grateful that Hauptwerk proved resilient against that event!

Best wshes,

Kenneth